[verum ago]

Anyone have a guess where Romney/Ryan really stand in the polls? I guess I mean not in the polls, but in reality at this point? I hang up on I don’t know how many pollsters.

My guess is that they're up 2-3 pts overall, and dead even or 1 pt ahead in the make-orbreak states . The polls showing Obummer up 2-4% are oversampling Dems 4-9% and are tremendously undersampling independent voters.

That's my totally unqualified guess, which of course puts me on equal footing to a lot of polling agencies and ahead of those that are shilling for the Left ;-)

[castlegreyskull]

I think Romney/Ryan is up +12% nationally.