Posted on 08/30/2012 7:04:58 PM PDT by Randy Larsen
I am retiring tomorrow after 33 years(8/31/2012).
The big change in immigration happened in 1965.
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_08.html#.UEHAEEZc_TM
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/exit-polls.html
Under Bush...500,000 illegals march on Dallas Texas below.
Dallas Tx, 2006....Millions of illegals were so emboldened under Bush, they marched on most of our major cities, waving foreign flags in your faces, making demands and threats...
Bush made American citizenship pointless. No joke.
Beyond clueless!
You’re out of your league missy.
Bush was a big supporter of secured borders during wartime, while he celebrated Cinco De Mayo up in the White House.
I bid you a good night missy!
Sir,
I stand by my opinion of you. YOU ARE CLUELESS.
You have been dismissed.
Goodbye
Here’s a return rant - as you said, nothing personal, just a rant.
The thread was in poor taste. Nobody gets a pat on the back for poor taste, except in government.
Nobody blames the poster for retiring if he wants to. However, retirement is simply an abstraction for too many people that have worked longer and harder than the poster. They see retirement as a foreign concept to them.
But the fact remains Randy Larsen is now a millionaire and has been made so not through his efforts but those of present and future taxpayers within a system not open to private sector participants. I don’t blame anyone for seeing a thread like this and saying “WTF”. You say it’s because they are jealous, some others say it’s because they are not smart enough to have jumped on the gravy train years ago. I say they are sick of paying for everyone in gov’ts retirements.
Nearly all state, federal, and local retirees are millionaires by at least some retirement accounting standards, and possibly many accounting standards. Those that pay the taxes for it all just want to be left alone for the most part - that includes not having Randy Larsen (since he opened himself up for it), or you, or anyone else taking their money.
As for me personally, I’d prefer to take our fiscal medicine now and cut EVERYTHING, eliminate MANY THINGS - as you suggested, so we get over it sooner without borrowing more money - though that’s not going to happen, and we’re not paying back the money we owe now, without some extraordinary luck or other unlikely event.
The problem with that is apparent on FR in microcosm. There are two factions of conservatives on FR. Those that pay, and those that cash government checks.
If you cash government checks, you’ve got a conflict of interest as a conservative that may influence you to choose a path of less liberty, and less freedom for those who pay for it all.
(This next point is a large aggregate “you”, not personal)
If you cash a government check you probably aren’t going to always make the right decision for our country out of your own self interest or belief in your entitlement to other peoples money.
Take the Tea Party. From polls early on, the Tea Party was not about “Lower taxes” it was about “preserving medicare from Obama care”. If the Tea Party was about actual fiscal discipline and making government actually smaller NO Tea party candidate would get elected.
The “I cash a government check” conservatives are the Tea party, apparently. Sure, some noise about reducing government is made, but FIRST preserve medicare. Nonsense.
So we go off the fiscal cliff because too many welfare recipients, moderate and liberal gov’t employees and retirees and “government check conservatives” want what they think they are entitled to.
It’s a joke. R&R aren’t going to change it meaningfully. They may slow it down, but real change will only come after we go off the cliff.
Ok, rant off.
Here's an example of federal judges becoming impervious to the facts in Chicagowhackoland:
I think it's a function of the mind-blowing daily corruption.
Honest work, and 33 years of it is a long time. You earned your retirement. Plus I'd wager it's hardly a "gold plated" one.
Plus, if he's got California gold-plated public sector medical, it's a LOT more.
Life isn’t fair.
“You earned your retirement.”
If your retirement depends upon taking other peoples money now, and in the future that was actually earned by those people, then you cannot, in any reasonable sense say that a multi-million dollar lifetime entitlement was “earned” in any real sense. But reality has nothing to do with it.
What you can factually say is the poster fulfilled the requirement for helping himself to the funds of present and future productive citizens, with government assistance in ensuring that the funds are taken with an implied threat of force if you do not pay.
ALL government retirements are promises made by government to those in government without representation by those that will actually pay the bill (i.e. future taxpayers).
“Life isn’t fair.”
This isn’t a matter of life being fair or not. This shakes the very Constitutional foundations of our country. Nobody is fundamentally entitled to the property of another.
The government apparatus in place to ensure that someones property is taken to benefit someone in government is the very definition of tyranny.
Tyranny definitely isn’t fair.
Says the people confiscating tax payers money to prop up their top shelf benefits and fat retirements.
Your message is clear:
Government employees to tax payers: "Shut up, pay up and get over it".
I am not a government employee. If the shoe was on the other foot, I’d still say life isn’t fair.
Please describe my "Gold Plated Medical Benefits" to me.
Let's get this problem out in the open!!!
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