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North Carolina cheated and prospered, now it's time for reckoning
cbssports.com ^ | 8/14/12 | Gregg Doyel

Posted on 08/15/2012 11:56:11 AM PDT by KingOfVagabonds

The free ride is over for North Carolina. It was good while it lasted -- but why it lasted so long, I can't say. It's astounding, how this academic scandal could go on for so many years and help so many UNC athletes without being stopped.

....How many athletes were given free grades from the Department of African and Afro-American Studies? We don't know.

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It seems passing an Afro-American studies class is much too hard to do on your own...athletes need the grades given to them.
1 posted on 08/15/2012 11:56:16 AM PDT by KingOfVagabonds
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....How many athletes were given free grades from the Department of African and Afro-American Studies?

...I would argue that getting free grades does constitute an education in "african-American studies"

2 posted on 08/15/2012 12:02:33 PM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: KingOfVagabonds
From the comments section:
To anybody out there yelling "cheaters, punish them now!", think about it. If you attended a Univeristy or place of higher education you most likely cheated during your tenure there too. Any time you asked your friend for their answers for an assignment, or the answers to a test they took earlier in the day, borrowed a paper, used an unauthorized cheat sheet, or in today's age used your book for an online test when you weren't supposed to, you cheated and could have been kicked out of school.
I never did any of that. Ever. Sounds to me like someone who wants to rationalize his own history of cheating.
3 posted on 08/15/2012 12:03:14 PM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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As a UNC grad I am not surprised that the football team took easy courses, that takes place everywhere, but Academic fraud is embarressing.

To try to link this with the basketball team without any real proof is unacceptable.


4 posted on 08/15/2012 12:04:10 PM PDT by Perdogg (It's time to come together for America)
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“...I would argue that getting free grades does constitute an education in “african-American studies”

Indeed.


5 posted on 08/15/2012 12:06:00 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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“...I would argue that getting free grades does constitute an education in “african-American studies”

Beautiful!

(and too often it’s followed up with a lifetime of similar ‘continuing studies’ lol!)


6 posted on 08/15/2012 12:06:19 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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...I would argue that getting free grades does constitute an education in “african-American studies”


Never thought of that...pretty brilliant.


7 posted on 08/15/2012 12:06:44 PM PDT by KingOfVagabonds
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Getting an A in a class that doesn’t exist? Typical.

I remember listing to the radio back in the 90’s. Some NC student had fallen below the required average and had to take a summer course to be eligible to play........

Golf Appreciation! Golf Appreciation? That’s a college course????? Bet he got an A in that one.


8 posted on 08/15/2012 12:07:55 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Perdogg
To try to link this with the basketball team without any real proof is unacceptable.

From the article

UNC records showed "basketball players had also enrolled. In two of the classes, the sole enrollee was a basketball player."

9 posted on 08/15/2012 12:08:14 PM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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Hopefully when the education bubble pops, many such useless diploma mills will close, and much of college sports will be eliminated as well.


10 posted on 08/15/2012 12:11:34 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Perdogg
Academic fraud is embarressing.

Ain't it, though.

11 posted on 08/15/2012 12:11:34 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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>>...I would argue that getting free grades does constitute an education in “african-American studies”<<

I suggest that white athletes declare their major in “white boys and thangs.”


12 posted on 08/15/2012 12:11:54 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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In a way, this is worse than Penn State since it created a competitive advantage.

Am I outraged by these allegations? Of course not. I save my outrage for what happened at Penn State.


13 posted on 08/15/2012 12:13:48 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: kevkrom; ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; ...
I saw that, but there is no proof that it was a conspiracy by the basketball to commit academic fraud. However, if there is investigation and one is discovered, I will be the first to call for punishment.
14 posted on 08/15/2012 12:17:51 PM PDT by Perdogg (It's time to come together for America)
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There have been some BBall players linked to it. Some during Championship years.

The NCAA vacated the Final Four Memphis played in b/c Rose cheated on an SAT in Highschool (and was even cleared by the NCAA before Memphis signed Him). We shall see if they use the same standard.


15 posted on 08/15/2012 12:20:33 PM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: kevkrom

Hear, hear! Sounds like the “I wouldn’t trust anybody who DIDN’T use drugs during college” Bravo Sierra the libs have been handing out for 25 years. Heaven forbid we all get along on our own merit...


16 posted on 08/15/2012 12:21:42 PM PDT by jagusafr
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To: KingOfVagabonds

See what we have here? We have evidence not only of grades being given to athletes for at least a decade — but also that UNC academic support staff steered athletes to those classes. This can’t be dismissed as the rogue actions of a man named Julius Nyang’oro, the embattled former head of the Department of African and Afro-American Studies. If it was just him, well, that could be explained away to a certain extent. The school would be vulnerable to NCAA sanctions, but one man running amok? That’s not horrible.

What actually happened at North Carolina?

This is horrible.

Academic advisers steering athletes to Nyang’oro’s department. Athletes staying eligible by getting grades in some classes that didn’t even exist. Athletes who played football and men’s basketball.

Did any players on those NCAA championship teams attend bogus classes? According to the News & Observer, almost 67 percent of the students in those 54 classes were athletes. Most played football, but the newspaper reported that UNC records showed “basketball players had also enrolled. In two of the classes, the sole enrollee was a basketball player.”

but were not limited to — academic fraud. The NCAA poked around, found some stuff, but didn’t find this.

The NCAA didn’t find 54 bogus classes from 2007-11, or the unknown number of classes dating to 2001, filled mostly by UNC athletes. The NCAA hasn’t uttered a peep in recent days about these new allegations, either. Neither has the school. Not Roy Williams. Not anybody. The biggest response has been the creation of a website attacking the Raleigh reporter who is all over this story, including the Julius Peppers revelations. The website was created by a man named Carl Carey. Julius Peppers’ agent? A man named Carl Carey.


17 posted on 08/15/2012 12:24:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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Oh I agree that nothing’s proven yet, but it seems clear the problems predated Butch Davis... the scope may be a different issue.


18 posted on 08/15/2012 12:24:26 PM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: KingOfVagabonds

Crush them like they are trying to do to Penn State.


19 posted on 08/15/2012 12:25:13 PM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: freedumb2003
I suggest that white athletes declare their major in “white boys and thangs.”

Now there's no need to inject race into this scandal. The writers of this article took great pains not to mention it, neither should you. In fact, the silence is deafening as everyone tiptoes around the obvious.

Give it time, and the media will round up the usual Mormon suspects...

20 posted on 08/15/2012 12:26:44 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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