Posted on 08/14/2012 11:51:55 AM PDT by Yaelle
Rush, I just heard you saying that you thought punishing the university itself is going too far at Penn State.
Yes, it appears that one evil man brought the whole thing down, but remember that to cover up evil is to promote it.
Everyone up in the highest administration must have known about Sandusky. No one alerted law enforcement. They "let him retire early.". No other football teams seemed to hire him, which if people knew nothing would defy logic. Everyone knew. The heads of the university knew.
They allowed him full access to their property and facilities. They did not alert the authorities to a known pedophile who was running a charity giving him access to the most defenseless children.
The heads of the university allowed these rapes to continue, so, sadly, to prevent anything like this happening again, the whole university is being brought down. By those who stayed silent rather than doing the right thing.
Of all people, I'd have thought you would understand the selfless bravery that discovering evil should have inspired and indeed is required, in the heads of a great educational institution.
So I wasn’t misconstruing what happened.
How do you fetter a free man who has not been convicted of a crime??? Remember how long Sandusky wandered the campus unfettered even after the Grand Jury report and he was charged with multiple counts of abuse.
So.. You want me to believe that after Sandusky took all those little boys on trips to bowls games and stuff (lodged them in hos own hotel rooms)....
And reportedly “fondled” a boy in the showers...
And Paterno was told about the fondling by an (arguably) upset young assistant coach...
That Paterno continued going to work each day while the “fondler” Sandusky had free rein around the campus.
And that Paterno, one of the most powerful men in the history of the entire school, just carried on - business as usual.
And that is just A-OK?
For instance...
Let’s assume there just wasn’t enough evidence or whatver to charge/try/convinct Sandusky at the time...
based upon what he knew, Paterno could have said something like this:
“That sick SOB Sandusky who takes little boys on trips to bowl games and shares his room with them has been seen by one of our asst. coaches fondling a little boy in the showrs. And now, sopme ten years later, he is still walking around! Either do something about it or I QUIT!”
“Oh.. wait!!! I can’t quit!!! Otherwise, Bobby Bowden will have more wins than me or something”
Naturally, a scandal like what happened at Penn State would attract concern from the Middle States Higher Education Commission, and that most likely is the sole reason for the letter. Chances are it really won't lead to any type of punitive action unless there is something more than we know.
You should be asking those questions of the CYS case workers, child psychologists, detectives, DPW investigators, administrators, district attorneys, and the CEO and Dr of child psychology of TSM, who had 10 times the evidence of child abuse in 1998 and still couldn't charge him, versus the 2001 incident witnessed for 2 seconds by McQueary whose description the jury in the Sandusky trial found to be less than indictable and thus acquitted him of it.
And who should he have said that to??? the Department of Public Welfare that approved Sandusky as fit to be an adoptive parent or the Department of Public Welfare that exonerated Sandusky in an earlier incident and the department that would have investigated this one.
“There were 3 emails”
It seems to me that those of you who are defending Paterno are defending the indefensible.
Paterno admitted, prior to his death, that HE didn’t do enough and should have done more. I heard him say it.
What other proof do you need?
No. I would not agree. If I’m being insured that everything is being taken care of, or it was looked into. I, as a person who was fed second-hand information (that turned out to be watered down), am not going above my superiors heads at that point. At that point it’s on the witness to go up the ladder. Only he knows what he actually witnessed.
If I Worked at PSU I would be furious with the hierarchy for allowing children to be raped and doing nothing. When the university is punished, the students won’t be punished at all, other than being saddened that they can’t go to a bowl game. If that is why they went there they have the brains of a potted plant.
Bingo.
There was zero evidence linking Paterno to the coverup. There was nothing from anyone involved saying “we gotta keep this under wraps or it’ll hurt recruiting...
...PSU koolaid drinkers ought to be put into psychology texts for future study in denial tendencies...so by your logic, or lack of same, if there is no tangible evidence trail in which someone screams out in big, bold letters ‘we did it, we’re guilty, punish us’, then there is no crime...hate to be prosecutor in your world...the Freeh report was meticulously organized, with copious documents, many not relevant, some more so...but I do believe Freeh has a little bit more info at hand than you do, for all your blathering on this forum...
...Since you seem to think Paterno had nothing to do with anything, how do you explain his telling the GJ that he knew of no similar prior incidident with Sandusky and a boy in the shower, when everyone with a warm brain knows he knew about the 1999 incident...in other words, why did Joe tell the jury he knew nothing when he clearly did? Lying under oath, maybe? What’s the name for that? Oh, I forgot...in your world, nothing is culpable, without a banner confession attached to it...
The only thing I needed to read in the Free Report was AD Curley’s email to Spanier saying he “was uncomfortable in calling the Police after talking to Joe.”..
...but remember, that’s not evidence, according to the kooolaiders...that document was dreamed up by Erickson, on the orders of Corbett the governor, in order for Freeh to have something to give to Emmert, so they could punish all the innocent PSU fans by giving them substandard football for a few years so as to get back at Paterno for holding onto the job too long...or some such variation...
You’ve been harrassing me for three weeks now, and have yet to point to the page of the Freeh report with the evidence showing Joe orchestrated this massive coverup.
Give me the page, or shut the hell up IrishBrigade, a.k.a. Catholic priest molestation enabler. (Oh look, I can do it too. Accuse someone of being involved in covering up for a pedophile without any evidence. Gee that was easy).
He also said that he trusted others to do their jobs -- those who knew more about the situation than him.
Yeh -- he should have done the athletic director's job, the vice-president's job, the president's job, the chief of police's job, the CEO of TSM's job, the DPW's and CYS's job for them -- instead of just his own. But that is not how things work in football, at universities and in life.
In retrospect everybody should have done more -- even YOU.
If somebody told me one of my charges was screwing a child, especially AT the work place, the cops would be called immendiatley. Even YOU would do that.
That is not what he was told and Sandusky was not one of his charges and he reported what he was told to the proper authorities -- his immediate superior -- per the law.
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