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188 Responses to An ‘inconvenient result’ – July 2012 not a record breaker according to data from the new NOAA/NCDC U.S. Climate Reference Network

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1 posted on 08/09/2012 7:38:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 08/09/2012 7:42:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Almost 2 inches of rain today which is more than we've seen in southern Michigan all summer. Too little, too late but it could be worse.

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Comparing droughts: 1934 and 2012
3 posted on 08/09/2012 7:44:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Heretic! Your lack of proper enthusiasm for the AGW belief system has been noted!



Sadly, not sarcasm. Anyone that looks at facts and figures and comes to a reasoned conclusion that doesn't support their agenda/beliefs is attacked.
4 posted on 08/09/2012 7:49:51 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I believe 1934 is the record hottest year at least in the upper Midwest. My Mother told of temperatures that summer well above 100 to as much as 115 degrees and the heat wave lasted well into the fall. We have only had a few days of 100+ temps this summer and certainly not like 1995 when we had weeks of temps above 100.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 8:09:20 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is an excellent write up.

One of the big problems with the earlier, legacy climate monitoring stations is that they are poorly sited near artificial sources of heat or cold and they are located in urban heat islands where the temperature are artificially high due the heat absorption of concrete and blacktop pavement and the heat generated by burning fossil fuels and waste heat from electrical use, all in a concentrated area.

Many of these stations were originally located in rural areas when they were installed many decades ago, but have become increasingly surrounded by higher and higher density urban development.

This encroachment accounts for much of the observed temperature increase over time , as well as the gradual increase in measured temperature over time as the locations became increasingly surrounded by urban development and the corresponding increase in the urban heat island effect

8 posted on 08/09/2012 8:19:12 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And if they are gonna extrapolate the US average temperature onto the global trend of climate change, why not include Alaska ? Adding that size of a land mass could only make the average more accurate when extrapolating onto any global trend. Hawaii just does not have enough land mass to make much of a difference.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 8:36:38 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Book marked.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 8:54:26 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Can we really believe the so-called records anymore? I remember back in May 5, 1972 the temp in Tulsa, OK was 105 downtown.

Yet when I try to find this listed the records only show about 92 degrees.


14 posted on 08/09/2012 9:11:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here are some temp links. Bookmark them as they are very hard to find on the web page.

Dallas
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USTX0327?climoMonth=7

Wichita, Ks
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USKS0620?climoMonth=7

OKC
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USOK0400?climoMonth=8

Tulsa
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USOK0537?climoMonth=7


16 posted on 08/09/2012 10:01:19 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Fascinating and bookmarked Ernest—excellent post—we are reminded yet again-—facts are stubborn things.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 10:05:58 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (It's not racism..... it's probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Govt will only report data when it is consistent with CAGW proponents’ claims.


18 posted on 08/10/2012 12:22:19 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Excellent information and good question for NOAA/NCDC.


19 posted on 08/10/2012 4:46:58 AM PDT by Techster
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Amazing man this Watts fellow


20 posted on 08/10/2012 7:43:48 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bump for later reading


21 posted on 08/10/2012 11:11:06 AM PDT by SuziQ
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