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To: adorno
So, when it comes to a satisfaction survey, people tend to give their particular preferences a better review, and, when it come to Apple anything, since that’s where the biggest fanboy crowd resides, they’re not about to give their gadgets a poor or even average rating

One, it's a survey of tens of thousands of people, the vast majority of whom can't be classified as Apple "fanatics." Many are on their first Apple product (including iPod). My neighbor barely knows what a computer is, and has barely heard of Apple except as some big computer company. He bought a Mac to replace his old PC, and he loves it. So you probably have some circular logic, if you like your Mac because it's such a good product, your opinion means nothing because you're a "fanatic" now since you like your Mac. No, you don't get to frame the debate that way.

Two, the die-hard "fanatics" are the most critical of Apple products. No PC fan base would be raising a huge stink about small, barely visible seam lines in the case of a PC. They wouldn't even care. But the Mac fans did, big time, over the Cube.

Macs might run windows “fine”, but, with some middle-ware to handle the OS and applications.

Macs have been able to boot directly into Windows for years. And now that Windows has finally come out of the 80s and supported EFI it's even easier.

It’s like having a car, and being able to drive on every imaginable road and highway on the planet, yet, with Macs, you’re being limited to perhaps a tiny number of roads.

In both cases, the number of roads are far more than you'll ever need. And in the case of Windows, a huge number of those roads are dirt backroads (the infamous crapware). However, you could come across a specific piece of software you need for a specific circumstance that is only available on one of the platforms. In addition, any standards-compliant UNIX software can be made to run on a Mac too, opening that huge market.

But, the higher-end PCs are, quality-wise, the equivalent of any Mac

My friend recently spent more on a Mac because he felt all the PCs he looked at were low quality. Yes, you said quality, so that's what I'm talking about. Something about the solid construction, metal, bright glass screen, vs. cheap plastic just felt more quality to him. Oh, were you talking raw specs of a few components, not quality?

BTW, which platform has the most developers, by far??? Nope! You’re wrong! I’ll give you another guess.

Windows Mobile! Oh, wait, almost nobody's programming for that anymore. Microsoft didn't have a monopoly in mobile OS that could stave off competition despite their product being inferior.

93 posted on 08/05/2012 7:20:46 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
One, it's a survey of tens of thousands of people, the vast majority of whom can't be classified as Apple "fanatics."

A survey, which queries Apple owners, is about how those APPLE owners feel about their Apple stuff. It's not about how those Apple customers feel about other people's PC/Windows stuff. Though the survey might have included "thousands of people", most of those people were not Apple customers, and the Apple customers could only respond about how they feel about "their" Apple computers. The Apple fanatics, which most Apple customers are, will always grade Apple stuff as if it were coming from a god.

And, the debate is always about the Apple fanatics, since, someone who is a new customer cannot be accused of being one. But, fanatics refers to those who can be counted on by Apple to be repeat customers for life, whether Apple puts out a good computer or put out a crappy product. There is no circular reasoning in that, since, the fanatic and delusional base is already established.

When Apple allows its customers to uninstall OSX and install Windows in its place, without invalidating any warranties, that's when OSX will meet its demise, since, Windows 7, and now Windows 8, are vastly superior products to any Apple OS, and much more useful with the millions of applications available for Windows.

You danced around my "roads" analogy, but came up short. My analogy still stands, and Apple computers are still limited in the number of applications available to the platform. But, following up with the car/roads analogy, the "Apple car" can't be brought to the shop down the road, since, it's gotta be an Apple shop or be sent to Apple service center for repair. PCs can be serviced by any shop down the road, and millions of shops around the world. Which, again, makes Macs a lot more expensive and not easily serviceable.

So, your friend recently spent more on a Mac? Yeah, and my whole neighborhood recently spend a lot less on their PCs, because they all felt that, it was stupid to spend more on a Mac which wasn't really going to do more for them than a standard PC. I would believe my story more than yours, since, it's happening a lot more often that that story about "your friend".

So, which platform still has the most developers in the world? You didn't answer it and being cute about it by bringing up Windows Mobile isn't going to get you off the hook. I gave the other guy a chance, and you took on the question, but, you still came up with the WRONG ANSWER.

No need to try again to answer the question, because, you'll just be dancing around the question and refuse to admit the true answer.

Keep up your fanaticism. Apple needs people like you, otherwise, they'd become the latest Palm.
97 posted on 08/05/2012 8:06:21 PM PDT by adorno
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