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To: rurgan

In an ideal, Libertarian, world, people that texted and drove would see their insurance rates go through the roof, as they left a body trail behind. Likewise, for workplace safety laws - in most cases, there’s no need to spend money on safety, since accidents are rare, and if you have a small business, you simply go bankrupt.

Believe it not, that’s the argument that Libertarians have tossed at me (they did later grow up, by the way).

When I grew up, we had no child seats, we had no seat belt laws - and most of us made it. But we also had no text messaging laws - not because we were more free, but because they didn’t exist. In other words, had text messages not popped up on the scene, no one would be talking about the need to ban them. That’s my test. Seat belt laws anger me, because if I don’t wear a seat belt, no one else is endangered. Child seat and child seat belt laws I’m mixed on, because kids don’t get that choice. Cell phones I don’t consider a problem (unless you have Verizon, that keeps dropping you and gives you an unreadable display), but having a Texting conversation is simply DANGEROUS, and it’s DANGEROUS to me when it’s being done by the high-school babe coming up to my traffic light and not noticing it. I WANT HER STOPPED!!


33 posted on 07/24/2012 6:12:37 PM PDT by BobL
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You people are sick and have no idea how these liberals are taking our freedom and ruining our country. Incrementally they take our freedom and it's always because of some justification that “sounds so good”.you are traitors to freedom. It is this incremental bureaucratic infrastructure of government agencies and laws that make it impossible for us to recover as even Reagan couldn’t destroy this hydra. Yet you sit here on a conservative forum that is for freedom lecturing me. Yeah you sit an cower at some imaginary threat of some texter lol . ridiculous. they control your mind. How many people have been killed that you know by your mad texter lol. even if it were true which it isn't this texter threat is less of of a threat than the incrementally growing web of laws and government that is tightening its hold on our businesses and us and our freedom which is choking our country . Our U.s.A. is going down not because of some texter but becuase of you who allowed these communist monsters to write laws for “our protection” . Franklin said those who allow the taking of freedom for a little security deserve and will get neither and that's what you have. America in previous decades was safer , freer and more prosperous and that is because there was less government and less laws. you think that these bureaucratic and government morons can keep you safe and you believe their lies to protect you and do they ? NO they only end up more powerful ,more in control of us. We end up with less freedom, less prosperity and less security (which they promised more). for you to trust government and these government bureaucrats is the epitome of idiocy. And you do it on a forum that is for freedom. you , democrats and your ilk that trust government are what is causing this decline and our soon to be collapse. enjoy the slavery, starvation and no security your socialism will bring.
35 posted on 07/25/2012 10:20:44 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: BobL

By your logic then allow goverment idiots to ban billboards, or pretty girls walking down the street. Then allow them to put cameras in our cars to see that we are not doing anything which they deem to be dangerous. Enough . you trust government beauracrats to solve imaginary problems like global warming or texters. it is the idea that government is a good that is the threat. the threat is the idea that thee government goons can make our life better and that should be allowed to write laws for anything that they say is for our own good/

we have too many laws too much government at all levels.Enough . what we need is to repeal laws, government and regulations. Yes we made it without seatbelts and government schools and we’ll able to make it without texting laws you liberal.


36 posted on 07/25/2012 10:33:02 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: BobL
Here's news for you nanny staters: life is and always will be dangerous and risky. For you all to say that we have to trust the ultimate evil which is government,politicians and gov bureaucrats to make life much better is ridiculous. That is what is destroying this country and world. this belief and people allowing these monsters called government to do more and more for our good of course. yes they are so saintly lol. enough . We've had enough of government and you want more. liberals and the media say everything is a threat what issn’t ? Even C02 what we breathe out is destroying the planet according to gov and the media and democrats. And of course liberals say guns are a threat too . and you say texters are. there is no difference in what they are doing and you are. it's always something, in fact almost everything is a threat. To give away our freedom and to give more power to these gov monsters is unimaginably stupid to me.
37 posted on 07/25/2012 11:26:49 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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