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1 posted on 07/23/2012 9:44:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Designed in Cupertino.

Built in China.


2 posted on 07/23/2012 9:50:50 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: nickcarraway

Why have a link that you cannot read???


3 posted on 07/23/2012 9:54:20 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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"Mr. Romney and his defense-policy team can learn a lot from the last time businessmen took over from the bureaucrats in arming this country, in World War II."

We'd be better off if they took a lesson from Colonel John Boyd and his fighter mafia!

4 posted on 07/23/2012 10:13:12 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: nickcarraway

Nobody will say it:

Time to re-import production.


5 posted on 07/23/2012 10:17:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: nickcarraway
that modernization isn't going to happen until the Pentagon reinvents how it buys the weapons and equipment it needs.

AMEN! The procurement system is broken. Fly then fix. No changes in scope on original requirements. TCTOs to upgrade, if required.

It would save billions and get better equipment into the field more quickly.

I expect China will do this. If we don't... I'm screwed.. I can't hear Mandarin.

/johnny

7 posted on 07/23/2012 10:20:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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If Apple designed a fighter...

You'd have to connect to an iTunes account to download a new mission package to it.

All the weapons attached to it would be painted white. (what, most already are? oh...)

The ECM system would take down enemy air defense systems by RickRolling their C&C bunkers/systems.

All the weapons attached to it would be of a proprietary nature.

An internet open-source project would soon start showing how to build your own iFighter-like aircraft out of a 1992 Chevy and the Android OS. But doing so would somehow void the warranty on your DVR.

Hitting severe turbulence in flight would be misinterpreted as shaking, and erase all the maps stored in the navigation system.

The HUD would be a touch screen, and all pilots would have to get gloves with capacitive/metallic fingers in order to operate it.

Navy aircraft carriers would be re-branded as iFigher docks.

A new version would come out every year or so, and cost more than the last model. But air forces that pre-ordered would get a discount.

During the second year of production an unfortunate programming error would cause a bunch of crossover Apps to appear in the iPhone App Store. Things like "Chaff & Flares" and "Ground Attack Munitions" and "BVR Air-to-Air". A 14 year old would accidentally install and activate the "ELINT/ECM/ECCM" App and shut down the cell network in Cleveland for 3 days.

Apple and the Air Force would jointly sue the US Coast Guard over trademark infringement because their cutters are painted white - an obvious attempt to ride on the iFighter's brand.

9 posted on 07/23/2012 10:53:17 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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What if Microsoft designed a fighter?


13 posted on 07/23/2012 11:44:12 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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You’d have to log onto iTunes to get your flight orders...uh, no thanks.


14 posted on 07/23/2012 11:47:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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The genius of our World War II procurement was the ability to produce large quantities of weapons that were rugged and reliable, not necessarily innovative.

Consider the M-4 Sherman tank. Vastly inferior to the German Panther and Tiger; outgunned and under-armored. In battles with Panzer units, a standard tatic was for some Shermans to take on the German tanks while some of their colleagues tried to maneuver around for a shot at the Germans from behind, where their armor was thinner. The Sherman also had a nasty habit of catching fire after being hit (but to be fair, so did a lot of other tanks). Many British crews nicknamed their M-4 “Ronsons,” after the cigarette lighter that lights “first time, every time.”

There are other examples as well. Initially, the “solution” to our bomber losses in Europe was supposed to be something called the P-75 fighter, an ungainly looking contraption with contra-rotating propellers. While dubbed a wonder plane, it was no better than the existing aircraft it was designed to replace. Fortunately, someone had the good sense to cancel the P-75, after someone else hit on the idea of putting a Merlin engine in the P-51.

The procurement whizzes also stuck with inferior (and defective) torpedo designs far too long, resulting in the loss of some U.S. submarines and their crews. On the surface, our Liberty ships suffered problems in design and construction; a few simply broke in two under rough conditions. About 30% of the remaining ships had severe cracking problems, a result of their rapid assenbly and the lower-grade steel used in their modular sections.

The biggest problem with military procurement today is that weapons systems are extremely complex, and the armed services keep making design changes in the R&D process. Those factors result in long lead times and billions in cost overruns. These problems are further exacerbated by our desire to create revolutionary, versus evolutionary systems. But revolutionary has its advantages; the advent of stealth aircraft made billions of dollars in air defense weaponry obsolete.

Going back to the WWII model might give us cheaper systems (and more of them), but at a price, namely a reduction in our technical superiority. With today’s under-sized military forces (compared to the Second World War), it’s an advantage we can’t afford to lose.


16 posted on 07/23/2012 11:58:33 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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What If Apple Designed an iFighter?

It would have simple, elegant flight controls, an aesthetically pleasing exterior, the engines would be glued in and completely un-maintainable and it would cost twice as much as other fighters with comparable performance.

And Apple would inform the military that it could only be flown on missions that had been through Apple's approval process.
17 posted on 07/24/2012 12:37:49 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Everyone who bought the iFighter1 would be pissed when they intro’d the iFighter2 a few months later and dropped the price below what the first one sold for.


18 posted on 07/24/2012 12:58:59 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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An Apple iFighter?


It's smooth, it's shiny and costs more than the better equipped competition.
19 posted on 07/24/2012 1:00:42 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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"...If we're going to maintain our military technological edge over current and potential foes, it's time to take a second look at World War II, the most rapid and successful modernization of forces in history..."

In World War II, we didn't have Socialists sabotaging our efforts. If we're going to maintain our military technological edge—we need to stop accepting domestic enemies into our military.

28 posted on 07/24/2012 4:52:57 AM PDT by Does so (....... Justice Scalia just turned 78 .........==8-O ............They don't think ... they PLOT!)
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To: nickcarraway; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
What if Apple made an iFighter? —PING!


Apple iFighter? Ping!

Please, No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

29 posted on 07/24/2012 5:46:41 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Wasn’t the last businessman to run the Pentagon a guy named MacNamara in the ‘60’s?


30 posted on 07/24/2012 6:03:12 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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- It wouldn’t be able to communicate with any other asset in the inventory.

- Pilots would run over each other to get a chance to fly it, to show how cool they are.

- After they get their shot, pilots would spend all their time talking to each other about how cool they are, and how uncool the other pilots are.

- Meanwhile, all the other planes would do the real work of winning the war.


32 posted on 07/24/2012 6:16:11 AM PDT by motor_racer (Pete, do you ever get tired, of the driving?)
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