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To: AndyTheBear
Materialism predicted an eternal static universe.

Well, certainly not static. But 'eternal' ? I don't believe that they have eliminated that.

Materialism was wrong.

Ah... well... everyone is wrong, even now.

9 posted on 06/27/2012 11:23:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
Well, certainly not static. But 'eternal' ? I don't believe that they have eliminated that.

By static it is meant that the universe was a closed system without interference from anything beyond it. Which certainly materialism did predict. I am not trying to say that materialism predicts that the universe does not have changes within it due to natural processes...for the sake of brevity I anticipate some due diligence on the reader to apply context.

Ah... well... everyone is wrong, even now.

If you mean by wrong that nobody has the entire truth entirely correct (save God if He exists) than sure, everyone is at least somewhat short of the truth in regards to a modeling of the universe (although somebody can be entirely correct in regard to a mathematical statement). However that hardly means that all models are of equal use and equally close to the truth...which would imply that progress in the sciences was not possible. To save materialism from the devastating blow to its core principals dealt it by the big bang, one is forced to expand the very definition of nature to extend beyond the universe itself...and one must by blind faith cling dogmatically to the presumption that nothing beyond the universe resembles a super-nature.

10 posted on 06/28/2012 12:58:52 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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