Posted on 06/19/2012 6:05:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup
Let's talk washers and dryers.
The washers and dryers today have sensors to meet EPA Standards.
I want to put a big frontloader washer and dryer in my garage which hardly ever gets too cold. When the plumber looked at the set up he said, you are right, there is no danger of the pipes freezing, however, there is water in all the sensors of the washers (and probably dryers) and that minute amount of water will freeze and ruin the sensor and render the equipment inoperable.
I have been thinking about this. Is there a way to find a good workhorse big frontloader washer and dryer, bypass the electronics and just have them have mechanical dials that do wash spin rinse repeat, or time the dry of x minutes? Without sensors. so the only water I need to concern my self with would be the pipe in and the drain?
Your input appreciated.
Salve
Gutte, what is your highest tempature in Summer?
Merci
Ma’am I’m from a similar area. Please, take my advice. Don’t stick your washer in the garage.
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You are worried about the pipes?
I’m married to a Mechanical Engineer, and he doesn’t allow machines to die — ever. However, I have to say that we’ve had only ONE repair on each unit in the 27 years. The dryer needed a new belt a while back and the washer needed a new gear box. He did the repairs himself. Both machines are over sized so I do only 3 loads per week. One light, one dark, one sheets and towels. But the machines (installed by the previous owners just before we bought the house) have provided very good service. The previous owners installed all new Whirlpool appliances before they put the house on the market. The dishwasher lasted 4 years. The refrigerator lasted 21 years. The stoves (2) and the washer and dryer are still going strong.
Thank you
The design is really clever,aluminum and stainless steel are on opposite ends of the galvanic reactivity scale,which means that once immersed in water the spider becomes the anode,and the drum becomes the cathode which means that one is consumed by the other.It is in effect a battery.
Where the manufacturers really cash in is that the spider and drum are only sold as an assembly and not separately,and at a cost of about $500.
So there you have it..you have been warned.Don't believe?then do a google look-up "washer drum galvanic corrosion".I wouldn't touch one of these things with a ten foot pole.
I have a big capacity but it eats up comforters and pillows.
100 degrees or so
Winter sometimes hits 20 below.
Speed Queen. Made in Ripon, Wisconsin. No electronics and you can defeat the EPA parts like wash and rinse temperature and tub water levels.
All steel or stainless. Buy locally and they’ll probably “set them up” for you.
They will probably last decades. All but immune to lighting and power outages as well.
mmersed in water the spider becomes the anode,and the drum becomes the cathode which means that one is consumed by the other.It is in effect a battery.
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Fascinating. I will check this out
My mother’s new washer (made by Whirlpool under the Kenmore label) is huge. The new top loaders don’t have a central spindle, so they hold a lot more. In fact, her washer is way too big for her because she likes to do really small loads. But, her washer would easily hold a large bedspread, or a blanket, or a full set of sheets. Maybe more. Whirlpool has a similar one under their own name.
A 100 watt lightbulb down by the solenoids will keep them warm. I’d get some kind of waterproof cover, though. Heat tape on the hoses to the washer. No sensor has water in it from the factory. They couldn’t ship in winter.
Best to fix the old ones. I had to replace a pump on a whirlpool that was stored outside in NE, and found http://stores.ebay.com/patriotsupply to be good (a Christian businessman)
Salve
Cool
C = (F - 32) × 5/9
38 C
Humidity point ?
Merci.
Personally, I would forget about the front loader and just get a reliable old-school washer/dryer.
http://www.speedqueen.com/home/en-us/products.aspx
The Speedqueen is built like a tank.
the center agitator ruins the comforters.
Try to get a look at the manufacturers specifications that are usually in the operators booklet.
They usually give you the environmental conditions the equipment is engineered for - high temp, low temp, humidity, etc.
I grew up around heavy equipment. There were days my Mom told me to leave my clothes in the garage before I came in for dinner.
There are no EPA amndated sensors. The sensors are to monitor things like balance, water level, ect... As long as a thin layer of water in a glass doesn't freeze, the sensors are fine. Water freezes at 32oF and that's independent of size of the "puddle" when the puddle is greater than nanosized. The size of the puddle just effects the amount of heat that must be removed for hte puddle to freeze. The sensors are also robust.
No. The pump in the washer will be holding water. Better to just build a closet for them... a nice, close, insulated closet, with a bi-fold front... easy to heat. Build in a little heater, and away you go.
Note: Get el cheapo bi-fold doors, peel the back off of them, stuff them full of rigid styrofoam, and put the back on again... Instant insulated bifold doors.
Samsung and Whirlpool make top loaders without a center post agitator. I’m guessing you are going to need a 4 or 5 cu ft capacity to wash a large comforter.
Do you wash your comforters at the laudromat now? If so, what kind of washers do they have?
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