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Technical Question for you Mech Engineers and Handy Types
6.19.12 | Chickensoup

Posted on 06/19/2012 6:05:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup

Let's talk washers and dryers.

The washers and dryers today have sensors to meet EPA Standards.

I want to put a big frontloader washer and dryer in my garage which hardly ever gets too cold. When the plumber looked at the set up he said, you are right, there is no danger of the pipes freezing, however, there is water in all the sensors of the washers (and probably dryers) and that minute amount of water will freeze and ruin the sensor and render the equipment inoperable.

I have been thinking about this. Is there a way to find a good workhorse big frontloader washer and dryer, bypass the electronics and just have them have mechanical dials that do wash spin rinse repeat, or time the dry of x minutes? Without sensors. so the only water I need to concern my self with would be the pipe in and the drain?

Your input appreciated.


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To: Chickensoup
Can you actually bypass sensors on this integrated chip equipment?
I dunno but if a frozen sensor can make the machine inoperable it has to be some kind of a switch. Get a schematic, find out where the sensors(switches) are and jump across it/them with a wire.

Oh BTW, FTEPA.

21 posted on 06/19/2012 6:27:00 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: yarddog

Yes buy it.


22 posted on 06/19/2012 6:27:59 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

Don’t even consider a front loading washer.


23 posted on 06/19/2012 6:29:35 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Chickensoup

Thanks, I will order it from Amazon today.


24 posted on 06/19/2012 6:30:32 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: vette6387

Perhaps he is concerned that because of the small amount of water in the mixing valve when it is not being used, that it could be more susceptible to freezing, but other than that, I cant ‘t imagine what concerns him.

perhaps I could empty that valve after use? I guess that is why he is a plumber and not an appliance guy.

Thank you for the information


25 posted on 06/19/2012 6:30:36 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
Same as I do in my pump-house. Install a heater of appropriate size... could be a small electric heater, heater tape, or even a light bulb. Then connect it to this:

Thermo-cube

26 posted on 06/19/2012 6:31:23 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis fugit.)
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To: Chickensoup
My experience with heat tape is that if it's not wrapped around a pipe it tends to burn out.

You might consider getting one of those little electric "chickehouse" heaters, put it inside the washer, and throw a tarp over both the washer and dryer to keep the heat in.

27 posted on 06/19/2012 6:31:30 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: lewislynn

Oh BTW, FTEPA

Something Something Engineer Professional Associate?


28 posted on 06/19/2012 6:33:44 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: gorush

Don’t even consider a front loading washer.

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I need a big one for comforters and bedspreads and towels.

I have top loaders for everything else.


29 posted on 06/19/2012 6:35:20 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

The inlet valaves are a big risk.
You can close the shut-off valves to the hoses when it;s not in use and see if they make it through the winter.
If they don’t you can fill by hand until a replacement part comes in.

Heck, put a small thermostatically controlled space heater behind the washer.


30 posted on 06/19/2012 6:36:09 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: DuncanWaring

My washer and dryer are on my nighty prayer list. Paid $400 for both of them about 15 years ago. My ancient first microwave also still works fine. I see no need for EPA getting involved in any of this. Life was fine without all the whistles and bells that do nothing but cost more money than is necessary to spend. Just give me something with a dial that says Stop and Start. Surely people are smart enough to figure out for how long!


31 posted on 06/19/2012 6:36:46 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Rio

Thermo-cube

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That is terrific, I have never seen anything like it.


32 posted on 06/19/2012 6:37:03 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

You live in Maine and your garage doesn’t get “too” cold? What does that mean?


33 posted on 06/19/2012 6:37:36 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: mrsmith

Thank you


34 posted on 06/19/2012 6:38:23 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

Take the difficult stuff to a laundry...don’t buy a front-loading washer. You’ll scoff at my advice until you wish you hadn’t...and I am one of those handy guys that makes my living by being handy.


35 posted on 06/19/2012 6:38:46 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Chickensoup

I always buy used washers & dryers and so far they’ve all lasted a really long time. I’ve rebuilt the dryer once when the belt broke. I don’t care what they look like because they’re in the garage.

When in doubt about anything, Google first.


36 posted on 06/19/2012 6:40:05 PM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: Grams A

My washer and dryer are on my nighty prayer list
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Biggest lifetime mistake was to get rid of a washer and dryer I bought used about 8 years old in 1984. They lasted but stupidly in 1995 when I build a new home I wanted new ones....and nothing has been the same.


37 posted on 06/19/2012 6:41:08 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

Buy a used set of commercial washer/dryers. they won’t be cheap.


38 posted on 06/19/2012 6:41:24 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You live in Maine and your garage doesn’t get “too” cold? What does that mean?

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Ummm, it is really cold OUTSIDE the garage. Little ice on the cement inside the garage. Garage faces southeast.


39 posted on 06/19/2012 6:43:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Garage is attached to warm house and has warm rooms above it.


40 posted on 06/19/2012 6:44:37 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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