Pat Gamble played guitar for The Shifters, 1962 – 1963 in Lakewood, Washington. He retired as an AF four-star, became president of Alaskan Railroad and then president of University of Alaska. He also is a great patriot and very nice fellow. General Babbitt should also be singled out for really “beating the odds”. There have been very, very few four stars in the AF that were not rated pilots or navigators. Babbitt retired in 2000. Note the color of his hair. I know a substantial number of AF senior officers…almost all have one thing in common…their hair is white as snow.