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The Battle of Saipan - 15 June 1944
June 15 2012

Posted on 06/15/2012 5:08:13 PM PDT by moonshot925



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: japan; pacific; saipan; ww2

1 posted on 06/15/2012 5:08:20 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

Great pics, thanks.


2 posted on 06/15/2012 5:22:27 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the better of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: moonshot925
Those who witnessed the aftermath of the mass suicide of the women and children who leaped off the cliff were affected for the rest of their lives.

My wife's grandfather was one of the invasions transport commanders and he would not talk about it.

3 posted on 06/15/2012 5:26:46 PM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

The Marines did everything they could to prevent the suicides.

My Dad’s best boyhood friend was a Marine killed on Saipan.

Dad was in India at the time.


4 posted on 06/15/2012 5:32:36 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: AU72
"Those who witnessed the aftermath of the mass suicide of the women and children who leaped off the cliff were affected for the rest of their lives."

Japanese propaganda told them about all the horrible things the Marines would do to them. Now imagine what may have happened had we not used the Bomb and instead invaded Japan....

5 posted on 06/15/2012 5:51:30 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: AU72

An especially haunting series of pictures from the suicides was published years ago in Time-Life’s “World War II” series. A family was pacing on the beach, unsure of what to do, as Marines and other civilians were calling out to them not to kill themselves. Out of nowhere, a Japanese sniper shot and killed the two parents as the children ran from the scene (where they were later led to safety by other civilians).

Not mentioned (I read about it elsewhere) was the aftermath...a moment later, the sniper stood up from his position, and was ripped to pieces as every Marine within range opened fire on him.


6 posted on 06/15/2012 6:14:32 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: unkus; AU72
The Marines did everything they could to prevent the suicides.

My father was in the 4th Marine Division. He was at Saipan and witnessed the suicides off the cliffs. It upset him greatly. He said the women would throw the children off first, then they would jump.

Of course, that was nothing like the absolute Hell he witnessed on Iwo Jima.

7 posted on 06/15/2012 6:17:12 PM PDT by sand88
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To: sand88

My Dads friend who was killed on Saipan was in the 4th Marine div.

Iwo Jima had no civilians, as you know.


8 posted on 06/15/2012 6:20:55 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
My Dads friend who was killed on Saipan was in the 4th Marine div.

Sorry to hear that.

Iwo Jima had no civilians, as you know.

Yes, I know. My father would never talk about, except near the end. Even then he only told us so much. It left us speechless. He was only 20 when he hit the beaches of Iwo on Feb 19, 1945.

9 posted on 06/15/2012 6:32:11 PM PDT by sand88
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To: doc1019

My dad was there, went in off the carrier to assist the SeaBees at the airstrip. He didn’t talk about it much either....


10 posted on 06/15/2012 6:55:05 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: coolbreeze

Those that survive combat seldom do.


11 posted on 06/15/2012 7:02:20 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the better of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: sand88

God bless our Dads and all who fought in that horrible war and all the other wars since.


12 posted on 06/15/2012 7:10:30 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: sand88

Wow, your Dad saw two bad ones and a lot in between.


13 posted on 06/15/2012 7:13:51 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: coolbreeze; doc1019

I think the loss of Saipan made it clear to the Japanese that they were going to be defeated.

Saipan was only 1,460 miles from Tokyo and the B-29 had a range of 3,200 miles.

The Japanese home islands were now vulnerable to air attack.


14 posted on 06/15/2012 7:15:51 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Flag_This

Now imagine what may have happened had we not used the Bomb and instead invaded Japan....


My dad was involved in the initial Occupation of Japan and he said they thanked God for the bombs.


15 posted on 06/15/2012 7:17:44 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
God bless our Dads and all who fought in that horrible war and all the other wars since.

Well said. They risked it all in the cause of Freedom.

16 posted on 06/15/2012 7:25:08 PM PDT by sand88
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To: moonshot925
I look at these pictures and I think of my Father and Uncles who fought in WWII and Korea.

Then I think of the Marxist sitting in the White House, I feel sick to my stomach.

I am also sickened knowing that some of the Brave Men that survived Hell on Earth actually Voted for the Traitor In Chief, letting themselves be influenced by the lies and distortions perpetrated by the same people they swore an Oath to protect.

The Press is nothing but Complicit in our downfall.

17 posted on 06/15/2012 7:28:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I feel the same way. I’m a Mayflower descendant. I had relatives in the Revolutionary War. I’ve lived on Saipan. I went from there to the Philippines, where I visited the grave of an uncle who died in WWII. I’m sick to my stomach every day.


18 posted on 06/16/2012 6:00:32 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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