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Is Dark Matter a Glimpse of a Deeper Level of Reality?
Scientific American ^ | 6/11/12 | George Musser

Posted on 06/13/2012 11:11:54 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: UCANSEE2
Like smaller than 53.025×10(to the minus 36 power) ft...

The fabric of the universe is indeed finely-woven.

Exodus 26 “1 Make the tabernacle with ten curtains of finely twisted linen and blue, purple and scarlet yarn, with cherubim woven into them by a skilled worker. 2 All the curtains are to be the same size —twenty-eight cubits long and four cubits wide. 3 Join five of the curtains together, and do the same with the other five. 4 Make loops of blue material along the edge of the end curtain in one set, and do the same with the end curtain in the other set. 5 Make fifty loops on one curtain and fifty loops on the end curtain of the other set, with the loops opposite each other. 6 Then make fifty gold clasps and use them to fasten the curtains together so that the tabernacle is a unit.


81 posted on 06/13/2012 6:53:41 PM PDT by Errant
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To: TexasCajun

That pitiful woman is so stupid ... How stupid is she? ... She lives in blissful ignorance.


82 posted on 06/13/2012 7:26:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: layman

8 )


83 posted on 06/13/2012 7:35:55 PM PDT by dubyagee ("I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.")
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To: Doc Savage
Sheldon Cooper disproved this theory in 1998.

Bazinga!

I actually understood the entire article. Very interesting, and I'll bet this guy is on to something.

84 posted on 06/13/2012 9:23:05 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: OneVike

“They even admit they cannot prove it exists and that you need faith that it does.”

I don’t normally comment on threads about religion because I won’t enter a debate where the final argument is the point of a gun, but this is a science thread so here we go.

Scientist’s don’t take anything on faith. you are confusing theory with faith. A theory is just a framework to describe an as yet undiscovered and unproven phenomenon. It is a guess as to what might be behind some measurable effect on the perceived universe. In order to become fact a theory needs to be proven with evidence. Scientist prove a theory by trying to falsify it. Faith by definition is belief without evidence or proof. Faith needs no proof. Faith and reason are opposites. The reason something is taken on faith is that it can not be taken in reason. When a scientist comes upon evidence that proves his theory wrong he throws it out or changes it to fit the new data. With every theory he or she throws out he lessens the pool of possible answers and moves closer to the truth. Scientists don’t have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow, they have a conviction based on the fact that it has risen every day for billions of years.

When faith is confronted by contrary evidence it simply denies that the evidence exists or that existence exists. Or it invalidates man’s reason or his faculties of perception.


85 posted on 06/14/2012 12:13:45 AM PDT by albionin (A gawn fit's eye gettin.)
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To: Errant

I love getting into anything that attempts to bust paradigms in the vein of “Everything you know is wrong”. Two subjects over the last 20 years especially fascinated me. The “gravity may actually push” theory is one. The other is Thomas Gold’s theory that oil is not a fossil fuel, but is abiotic.

And both of these theories are supported by new discoveries (e.g. methane on Titan). They may both be on to something.

I’ve said, since I was a kid, that technology seems to solve our problems just when we think we’ve hit a wall. And since I became a Christian, I believe God planned it that way.


86 posted on 06/14/2012 4:58:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
I’ve said, since I was a kid, that technology seems to solve our problems just when we think we’ve hit a wall. And since I became a Christian, I believe God planned it that way.

That's what I think as well. Except for the description of creation in Genesis, I can't imagine how or why.

87 posted on 06/14/2012 7:21:35 AM PDT by Errant
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To: albionin
I am not the one who said they have faith instead of proof. It was a leading scientist. Read what I posted in comment #12.

In the article it quotes Sean Carroll, a cosmologist at the University of Chicago, as saying,
"No matter what you do [in devising new theories] you're going to have to believe in dark matter."

The quote above is from an article that was published by SPACE.com in 2007, but tie this into the current up to date information we have that shows they are still searching for evidence to prove their theory that, what they call dark matter exists. Below is an excerpt from Phys.org about the lack of dark matter in Sun's neighborhood,
The most accurate study so far of the motions of stars in the Milky Way has found no evidence for dark matter in a large volume around the Sun. According to widely accepted theories, the solar neighborhood was expected to be filled with dark matter, a mysterious invisible substance that can only be detected indirectly by the gravitational force it exerts. But a new study by a team of astronomers in Chile has found that these theories just do not fit the observational facts. This may mean that attempts to directly detect dark matter particles on Earth are unlikely to be successful.

If you read down through the article you learn they have yet to even be able to detect dark matter in laboratories here on Earth. They cannot detect it anywhere, yet we are told to believe in something not proven, that is what faith is my friend.
despite the fact that it has resisted all attempts to clarify its nature, which remains obscure. All attempts so far to detect dark matter in laboratories on Earth have failed.

So we have a theory that we are told we must believe in. Sorry, but when I am told that I must believe in something we now know has yet to be proved exists, that is faith.

I can offer more proof that God exists then they can give that what they call dark matter exists. Until they prove it exists, it is but a theory, just like evolution.

However, I stand by my assertion that the elusive element they call "Dark Matter", or cosmic glue, is Christ Jesus. Until they admit that fact, they will forever have to have faith in something they will never prove exists in the form they want it to exist.
88 posted on 06/14/2012 10:35:30 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
...yet they will ignore many more simple truths that would be beneficial to man if they just let go of their desire...

Which truths are these? If you know them, you should share.

89 posted on 06/14/2012 3:52:25 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: OneVike
I can offer more proof that God exists then they can give that what they call dark matter exists. Until they prove it exists, it is but a theory, just like evolution.

/pulls up a chair...

Well, start proving. I'm interested in this one.

90 posted on 06/14/2012 5:44:19 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: LibWhacker

“Their true venue is a ginormous abstract realm of possibilities”

I suggested before in this forum that scientists are being dragged kicking and screaming toward the concept of a Supreme Being, one both immanent and transcendent. Add the concept of “divine Will” to a “ginormous” (read unbounded) “abstract realm of possibilities”, and you start to get close. You can think of “divine Will” as the path from “abstract realm of possibilities” to a “manifested reality”.


91 posted on 10/18/2012 10:36:32 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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