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To: Spktyr

No, you don’t get it. You do not have any experience with old fashioned V8 motors, apparently.

SUBSTANTIAL improvements

You cannot substantially improve a modern car by taking off the mufflers. In fact, in many cases you will hurt performance.

The old cars were tuned for low end torque and had seriously undersized peripheral components...ie intake, exhaust, brakes and tires.

Using old factory stock performance numbers from old cars with those pathetic old tires is nonsense.


74 posted on 05/21/2012 11:20:46 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

Actually, I do have experience with them. You evidently don’t have much experience with modern cars, though.

But all you have to do is go look at an old copy of Hot Rod, which showcased typical and wild builds of the day and you can look at the quarter mile times. Which were still not all that great.

Cars today still have undersized intakes, exhaust paths, brakes and tires. Better than they used to be, but quite often they’re still undersized. No, taking off the mufflers often doesn’t help - because the actual restrictions are elsewhere. Putting an X-pipe, dual 3” and freeflow cats on a Mustang GT still helps today. Big brake packages are still quite popular. Cold Air Intakes and larger intakes are still de rigeur.

A ‘wild’ build back then would put out maybe 7-800 on a dyno. A ‘wild’ build today can put out upwards of *1500* with no more effort than you would have given to that ‘wild’ build back in the Stoned Age.

Want proof? How about a 1508 horsepower Toyota Supra? That’s not a typo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRY6MwxepIs


75 posted on 05/21/2012 11:32:20 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Or a 1500hp+ Corvette that actually does do 231mph?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jZ-Ep_er728


76 posted on 05/21/2012 11:35:40 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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