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Anyone Have Any Experience with Silverleaf's Award Verification Center Time Share Pitch?
vanity ^ | 05-16-2012 | aruanan

Posted on 05/16/2012 7:20:15 PM PDT by aruanan

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Thanks in advance.
1 posted on 05/16/2012 7:20:18 PM PDT by aruanan
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Heck, I can’t afford to win a car.

A used car maybe.


2 posted on 05/16/2012 7:23:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Horse pucky. Is it too good to be true?? There’s your answer..


3 posted on 05/16/2012 7:28:59 PM PDT by goseminoles
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I know people who have entered those contests but they figure out its a scam real quick when told to attend a sales pitch seminar. I put it in the same category as the Nigerian scammers but since its not online, people are more apt to fall for it.


4 posted on 05/16/2012 7:30:11 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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If you’re going to laugh at this young guy and call him a moron, please don’t even bother to post.

I’ll laugh at him and call him an idiot ... is that better? And just why did you post this?


5 posted on 05/16/2012 7:31:32 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: cripplecreek

I will sum up what you just wrote.

Barack Hussein Obama... Hmmm hmmmm hmmmm


6 posted on 05/16/2012 7:33:30 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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He sounds like an Obama Voter. And the scam is the same as Obama uses!


7 posted on 05/16/2012 7:39:39 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Is the kid’s name Borat?


8 posted on 05/16/2012 7:40:12 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (O. M. G.)
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My brother was looking for a job on Google.

Someone wrote him back with an offer. They would come to the area on a trip and he would be their on-call driver for a week.

Somehow the email instructions included names and addresses in Florida and California and some foreign place. Odd.

So then they said they would mail him a check. It would be his pay and expenses. He should cash/deposit the check and then Western Union the rest to a place in California or something.

I told him this was the oldest scam on the internet. Send a bogus check for far more than what was needed and ask them to send the rest back- before the check actually clears.

It took a long time to convince my brother that it was a scam. He took their check (which nowhere mentions WHO the money comes from) to the bank and insisted that they check it out thoroughly, they called the issuing bank (which was in neither Florida or California or where ever)

I told him that he could be in trouble for passing bogus checks and stuff if he did what they asked. The account either was empty or non-existent. It was a scam of course.


9 posted on 05/16/2012 7:40:26 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Do you know the difference between education and experience? Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when you don’t.


10 posted on 05/16/2012 7:40:26 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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Certainly have some suggestions. First and foremost, have whomever is going with him keep all his personal documents, credit cards, etc. Because that’ll be the first thing they'll want from him when he arrives - driver's license (to verify he's qualified to win), social security number (in case of taxes, of course), plus a few financial questions - nothing out of the ordinary. Oh, and fill out this brief survey. Why is your mother's maiden name being asked? It's a security question, so that there's no problem in delivering any prize.

And once he gives up all of the keys to his entire electronic life, they'll hustle him into a great presentation on the value of time share ownership, especially for a young gentleman such as himself - who will have a full life ahead of him to fully utilize the timeshare experience. And of course you've heard all that bad stuff about timeshares, everyone says they're a rip off - and they were - they used to be marketed to old people, folks who forget to make payments and lose their timeshare, or are too old to ever travel to enjoy it.

But /our/ experience won't be a rip off. If he signs up, great. If he doesn't, Juan Gonzales will be using his social security number (stolen by a janitor, not anyone on staff, I assure you...), six people will be applying for tax refunds in his name, etc, etc, etc.

There is no upside to this. He will either get ripped off with a timeshare ownership (aka, meet Vinny The ARM, our financier...) or all his personal information will leak out and he'll have to deal with identity fraud for ten years. Oh! And I already know he won the free vacation - it's to another time share sales presentation in Las Vegas or the like - free room, amenities, even chips to play at the tables!

Just slide your card through the reader - these are for the deadbeats who take the prize and don't complete the required presentation. You've NOTHING to worry about if you do as you agree to do, attend the brief 2 hour presentation, get your card signed off, and the rest of the time is ALL YOURS. Please enter your pin too, so the bank can verify the transaction.

Oh, yes, do make sure you get the card signed. If the card is not signed, you will be liable for the entire cost of the trip, it's valued at over $3,000.

Hmm? Who signs? Our sales manager there. He's rather busy though, so you'll have to talk to his associates for a bit, just to keep you company until he has a free moment to scribble on that. What part of the sales presentation was of interest to you? You do like going to exotic locations, yes? How much do you spend at Starbucks? A timeshare is like skipping Starbucks only a few times a month, surely a worthwhile sacrifice to get a great investment. And it is an investment, you can sell it off later if you want. We even maintain a market - why, you could easily make MORE money selling it than you even invest in it. Just initial here that you agree to only use our market to sell your timeshare in - we wouldn't want some child predator or rapist to get something like this, right? We vet all our buyers.

This scam has been around a very very long time. This means they have a boatload of lawyers who know how to enforce every inch of the agreements, including confiscating personal property to satisfy the payment of the debt. By having the sole market for resale of timeshares, they get to sell new timeshares to anyone wanting to buy, and offer a very very cut rate closing (and high transaction fees) to buy it back - only you still have to pay any back dues or fines - we could just take it off your hands and waive those away if you'd like.. You did buy the optional Timeshare Policy Insurance, right?

11 posted on 05/16/2012 7:42:02 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Liberals fall for the same scam every time they vote.

Politicians are always offering them a “bright shiny object”...


12 posted on 05/16/2012 7:44:01 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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Any “guaranteed” prizes are just a bunch of cheap crap.

I have two free plane tickets waiting for me to call as a I type.


13 posted on 05/16/2012 7:45:03 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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Some people just have to learn the hard way.


14 posted on 05/16/2012 7:50:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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He shoulda stuck with some boring old CDs.


15 posted on 05/16/2012 7:51:34 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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Signing up for free stuff is an invitation for junk mail and phone calls.


16 posted on 05/16/2012 7:52:28 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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I went to one of these recently. It was a mail invitation and I was suppose to get a 7 inch Android tablet. It was only 15 minutes away. I walked in the door at the appointed time and identified myself and the gal handed me a box containing a 7 inch android tablet. Then I was ask to listen to a presentation about a buyer’s club, I did and I left with the tablet.

Now my intent was to give it to one of my grandchildren for a birthday gift, and I could have... It worked. However I did not because it had this marketplace on it and it was someplace in china market and I didn’t want to screw with it. It would probably be usable by someone who had lots of time to mess with it. I just bought the kid a Kindle Fire for 199 at Wallmart.


17 posted on 05/16/2012 7:53:28 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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Our file experience shows that this company has been the subject of complaints alleging misleading or high pressure selling tactics or dissatisfaction with the free award received at sales presentations. Complaints from timeshare owners primarily allege difficulties cancelling contracts, difficulties making reservations for specific dates, or dissatisfaction with resort services. Most complaints have been answered, however customers have not always been satisfied with the company's response.
18 posted on 05/16/2012 7:54:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Red_Devil 232
He sounds like an Obama Voter. And the scam is the same as Obama uses!

He's young and pretty much like many who do get scammed by Obama because they lack the requisite experience to recognize a con.
19 posted on 05/16/2012 7:55:21 PM PDT by aruanan
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OK Mr. Rain On Everyone’s Parade, I suppose you don’t believe I won the European Coca Cola lottery without entering, and my 7,000,000.00 check won’t be here next week? That nice lady I gave all of my personal banking info to wouldn’t lie, especially after her Catholic school upbringing.

You are just mean...what do you do for fun? Tear wings off of Fly’s?


20 posted on 05/16/2012 7:55:58 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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