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This is maddenning...where does a guy go to rent a truck with a minimum 20,000 lb tow rating??

Posted on 05/14/2012 11:40:10 AM PDT by mamelukesabre

I can't even find anyone that is bright enough to tell me over the phone what make and model trucks they have for rent, much less what the tow rating is.


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To: mamelukesabre

Might be helpful if you listed your origin and destination.
Someone here may haul it for you.
I would suggest a dropdown lowboy trailer. You could load your rig right onto it, and it pulls with a semi-tractor.
We move 40 ton rigs with them, no problem.


61 posted on 05/14/2012 1:59:47 PM PDT by Fireone (Liberals are just overschooled, undereducated, adult children. (did I mention FUBO?))
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To: cork

My tri-axle low-boy gooseneck (21K gvwr) has not had that problem. I am very careful about how tight I turn with a load though. I think I’ve used it enough to say since I’ve made several 500+ mile trips with more weight than I really should have. I think the most mert (the Dodge) and I have crossed the scales with is about 26,000. 7k truck, 6k trailer, 13k loader from Columbus, Mississippi to Fort Smith via Memphis. Put that one on the list of things I’ll not choose to do again! Color it probably stupid as well.

People will pull 15k to 18K dozers on tandem dual trailer and I’m sure they will top 7.5k truck + 7k trailer + 18K dozer = 32.5k total but never on a bumper and not very far. This is nearly 50% over the tow rating. I’m glad my dozer won’t go over the fenders or I’d have tried it by now.


62 posted on 05/14/2012 1:59:59 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sawdring
I gather that Free Republic has become your own personal Ask Jeeves site.

'Vanity of vanities', sayeth the FReeper, "Vanity of vanities! All is vanity."

63 posted on 05/14/2012 2:11:45 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: CodeToad

If you were half as smart as you think you are, I’d help you out with your ignorance and consider it charity.


64 posted on 05/14/2012 2:13:28 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: BwanaNdege

You think I’ve never used this trailer before? How you think I parked it where it currently is?


65 posted on 05/14/2012 2:15:45 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

You shouldn’t post drunk.


66 posted on 05/14/2012 2:25:55 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called “gay” instead.)
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To: mamelukesabre

“You think I’ve never used this trailer before?”

Then you shouldn’t need to ask what vehicle can be rented to move it. You never said it had been moved before, you indicated that you made it. You’re obviously not knowledgeable in this area, no matter how smart you think you are.

You bring it to FR, we comment. Don’t like that then go cry a river someplace else. This isn’t google.


67 posted on 05/14/2012 2:29:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called “gay” instead.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Anything “pickup” is out, you have reached the limit of even an F550... ...assuming machines or steel means heavy equipment or farm equipment...

I have a Freightliner FL60 and it will pull in that range and higher. The brakes are rated for 40K on the frame. Any of the “baby semis” Freightliner FL50/60/70, Ford F650/750/850. GMC & Chevy Topkicks C4000 & up, etc. will work for the application.

Now the next problem. The trucks I’m talking about weigh around 12K to 15K aand your load is 20k, now add 7k to 10k of trailer weight. You are talking about 40k or more going down the road. The Federal limit for non-CDL drivers is 26K. I pull a 13,600lbs 5th Wheel Trailer with a 13,300lbs truck and have about 4,500lbs of cargo. I’m moving over 30k of RV down the road without a CDL, BUT, should I ever get weighed I get a ticket. They mostly ignore RV’s, but not heavy equipment loads. Also, both the truck and the RV are under the 26K so I am in a slightly gray area not being commercial.

Next problem. You are talking a HEAVY pindle hitch (equipment) trailer or 5th wheel type semi trailer (lowboy) to handle that weight. A gooseneck might work but most are rated at 26k and weigh 7k or 8k themselves; add the 20k load and you are over their weight rating.

Problem solved? If you have everything farm tagged you are golden...

Sum it up... Even to rent a truck & trailer in that size you will need a CDL unless you get a farmer friend to help you out. A contract load on one of the “haul my stuff” web sites might be the best way to go. If you are going to do this several times a year it might be worth getting the CDL and a truck; the used ones are fairly cheap.


68 posted on 05/14/2012 3:19:17 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: Servant of the Cross

That is what I was talking about. I have noticed he/she has been posting a lot of questions lately. Just an observation.


69 posted on 05/14/2012 3:24:14 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: CodeToad

goodlordallmighty. Just stop. Please. You are sooo full of crap you shouldn’t be allowed outside of a sewage plant.

The trailer has many miles on it, I did not make it, a trailer shop made it. I make my own truck bumpers and hitches and sometimes flat beds. Yes I can tow it with a bumper hitch...if its a bumper hitch like the ones I make that is.

I’m borrowing a buddy’s Ford F550 with a BUMPER HITCH ya know-it-all...a bumper hitch just like the ones I make myself...that is schedule 120 6” pipe for the bumper and and 7/8” plate to mount the hitch ball on...and I’m going to tow it.

Apparently there is no place in the world to rent a solid heavy duty work truck...at least none that I, nor any Freepers, seem to know of. I don’t know why you thought I was asking you to tell me I can’t do what I’ve been doing my whole life. But I guess there’s one of you in every crowd.

What I did not know when I started this thread was just how rare it is to have an extra heavy duty work truck with a sturdy low-mount hitch(AKA A BUMBER HITCH ya know-it-all). Apparently you can’t just go rent one. The closest I found was a shop that specializes in long term rentals of heavy duty work trucks to railroad employees but they have none better than a class III hitch, for some stupid reason, even though their trucks are rated for more than 20k lb towing.


70 posted on 05/14/2012 3:38:49 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

If you’re not taking it too far you might want to contact some tree services or others that use dump trucks ,, they often have the type of hitch you need to haul around chippers and loaders and such on trailers..


71 posted on 05/14/2012 3:49:36 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: El Laton Caliente

An F550 diesel will get it done. They are rated for somewhere around 25k towing. Maybe more.


72 posted on 05/14/2012 3:51:34 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

So, you like to abuse equipment and use them beyond their ratings, that we could tell from your original post.

An F550 isn’t rated to pull 20+k from its bumper. Even its 5th wheel configuration is only rated to 22.7k, and that’s in a very specific configuration, and usually it can only handle no more than 16k.

I think you are confusing bumper hitches with frame mounted hitches, but even then you are way off.

Maybe you shouldn’t be making your own trailers. The highways have enough broken down disasters hurting people as it is. Have you gotten that thing inspected and registered?


73 posted on 05/14/2012 4:19:12 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called “gay” instead.)
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To: CodeToad

You have a serious reading deficiency.


74 posted on 05/14/2012 5:08:57 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: JRios1968

Great site!


75 posted on 05/14/2012 5:13:43 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Sawdring

Except where mail-order brides are concerned :-)


76 posted on 05/14/2012 5:16:26 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: mamelukesabre

Those are big balls.


77 posted on 05/14/2012 5:17:34 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: the invisib1e hand
Sounds like a Smokey and the Bandit scenario.
78 posted on 05/14/2012 5:20:13 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Sawdring

79 posted on 05/14/2012 5:29:15 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: mamelukesabre

I know they have the running gear, but was not sure the frame was heavy enough. I have a F350, but went with a Freightliner FL60 for heavier towing. My limit with it is the 32K air ride hitch I have on it... That and the 26k non-CDL rating...


80 posted on 05/14/2012 5:51:43 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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