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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where to start? LOL

Well, I'm thinking with an appetizer served on/in Dixie paper plates and bowls. Mardi-gras napkins... Then when the meal eventually works its way through ... some quilted northern.

Ok, as I understand it, Zimmerman was neighborhood watch, and Martin didn't belong in the gated community. We can endlessly debate what Zimmerman should or should not have done once he reported Martin's presence to the police and was told to back off. He didn't, at least not immediately. However, according to eye witness accounts it was only after Zimmerman broke off his trail of Martin and turned his back on him that Martin struck. Then Martin pinned Zimmerman to the ground, beat his skull into the sidewalk:

The witness, identified only as John, says those cries were made by Zimmerman who was on the ground being beaten by Martin. - from http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/witness-trayvon-martin-attacked-zimmerman/

In that situtation if you're in Zimmerman's position and you're not in fear for your life you are a fool. If you have the ability to defend yourself with deadly force and choose not to use it, you deserve to die, period. Cold, harsh, yes. Guess what, that's the way of the world. Martin attacked Zimmerman with deadly force. Zimmerman was not only justified in responding with deadly force, I contend he was morally obligated to remove that evil threat from society.

7 posted on 05/05/2012 11:47:44 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
In Florida, the law reads this way: "a person is justified in using deadly force (and does not have a duty to retreat) if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony, or to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another." [Florida Statute Section 776.012.] "The use of deadly force is further justified when a person is resisting any attempt to murder such person or to commit any felony upon him or her or upon or in any dwelling house in which the person is located." [Florida Statutes Section 782.02]
9 posted on 05/05/2012 11:50:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: ThunderSleeps
In that situtation if you're in Zimmerman's position and you're not in fear for your life you are a fool. If you have the ability to defend yourself with deadly force and choose not to use it, you deserve to die, period. Cold, harsh, yes. Guess what, that's the way of the world. Martin attacked Zimmerman with deadly force. Zimmerman was not only justified in responding with deadly force, I contend he was morally obligated to remove that evil threat from society.

I think you're a little off track. Z had the gun on his person, but he was under severe duress, and according to some accunts I've read, he stated he even forgot he had it. It was when M noticed it that the gun became the focal point of their struggle. I guess at that point one or the other of them was going to be shot. Here it's a matter of a split second. I have to suppose that the disposition of the weapon was favorable to Z, and he reacted fast enough to turn the event his way.

23 posted on 05/06/2012 1:11:42 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: ThunderSleeps

When was he told, specifically, to “back off”?


47 posted on 05/06/2012 6:49:19 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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