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To: Hodar

The cost of the meal is clearly printed on the menu. This cost includes the meal preparation and delivery to my table.

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I’d call this Kidnapping - being held hostage, against your will, for money is generally considered kidnapping.

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And if the menu clearly states that a certain percentage will be added for groups over a particular number, and you are at that threshold, do you still contend that it is kidnapping?

Or is it simple theft on the part of the patrons?


24 posted on 05/03/2012 7:19:13 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

I guess I must be stupid. Is it easier to serve 6 different people at 6+ different tables with 6+ separate checks, than to serve 6+ people at a single table with a single check (or even multiple checks)?

Same meals, same menu, same prep, same drinks - they are just condensed into a tigher space. If 25 people require more support, then you adjust your wait staff to accomodate. It isn’t rocket science.

Seems to me, that a group of 5+ is much easier, requires less legwork, less paperwork, less space and less confustion than individuals.

Now, a resturant is free to have any policy they want; however in my experience, the number of people at a table is not “clearly written on the menu”, it’s usually in small print at the bottom of the menu. It’s on the menu, but specifically designed to be over-looked by the casual observer.

My policy is simple - my wife and I often agree on a tip, and as tips go we are in the 15-40% range. Our policy is this - if there is a minimum tip, that’s what they get. If they don’t force the issue, we often tip more. But, for this we expect a few basic services, like not having to track our servicer down to refill our water/soda.


66 posted on 05/03/2012 8:09:59 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: dmz
And if the menu clearly states that a certain percentage will be added for groups over a particular number, and you are at that threshold, do you still contend that it is kidnapping? Or is it simple theft on the part of the patrons?

If it's a contract issue, then wording is everything. If a "percentage" is added, then the diners are SOL. If a "gratuity" is added, then it is arguably optional, even though it was added to the bill - because the definition of "gratuity" includes "optional," so the adding of it to the bill would merely be a convenience calculation, but not an agreed amount of payment.

86 posted on 05/03/2012 9:40:41 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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