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1 posted on 04/09/2012 2:13:55 PM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: Lady Lucky

It has to do with the quantity of combustable fuel available. Many fuels are more combustable when they are hot and are off-gassing. However, while these are more common in modern usage, they are not the typical case.

Try lighting a candle ... no huge flare. Light leaves, an old oil lantern, paper, charcoal with wooden matches.

If you have an explosive mixture of fuel (propane BBQ grill, lighter fluid, phospohorus - well, then things are a little more interesting, aren’t they?


2 posted on 04/09/2012 2:17:35 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Lady Lucky

Magic.


3 posted on 04/09/2012 2:17:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Lady Lucky

Initially, it’s a hot physical attraction. And then you get to know each other.

In movies, it can happen the other way. You know, the friends first thingy. You’ve known each other for years, suddenly, and one day a general warmth progresses into a slow smolder and eventually flames.


4 posted on 04/09/2012 2:18:17 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Fuel, heat and oxygen makes fire. My guess is the flare up is the oxygen being sucked in towards the heat and fuel. And as I said, it’s a guess.


5 posted on 04/09/2012 2:18:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Lady Lucky
the fire god says "ASK YE NOT OF THE MYSTERIES OF MY REALM"


6 posted on 04/09/2012 2:18:42 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: Lady Lucky
Oxygen reacting to Accelerant.
7 posted on 04/09/2012 2:19:03 PM PDT by poobear
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To: Lady Lucky

Thats a very interesting question..hmmm. Thats my usual response when I do not have a clue.
Pure guess does it have something to do with oxygen? I mean there is more oxygen available initially...?


8 posted on 04/09/2012 2:19:33 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Lady Lucky

My guess: the heat needed/used to start the fire, whether friction or another flame, volatilizes some part of the fuel that you are trying to light. This will be invisible/vapor but when some part of it starts to burn, the rest “flashes”.


11 posted on 04/09/2012 2:20:31 PM PDT by FairWitness (Everything is easy, once you've done it once)
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There is maker recognition that the flare might have to start in a windy or cold environment, so the initial fuel contains extra factors to quickly establish a proper operation temperature for those environments —the rest of the stick will already be somewhat pre-warmed and therefore doesn’t have the need for the extra chemical factors.

That’s a guess.


12 posted on 04/09/2012 2:20:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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There is maker recognition that the flare might have to start in a windy or cold environment, so the initial fuel contains extra factors to quickly establish a proper operation temperature for those environments —the rest of the stick will already be somewhat pre-warmed and therefore doesn’t have the need for the extra chemical factors.

That’s a guess.


13 posted on 04/09/2012 2:20:57 PM PDT by gaijin
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It has been years since my last chemistry class so some of the details may be wrong but here goes:

Wood, for example, out-gasses when it is heated. As the wood heats up, it releases flammable gasses. The fire you see is actually the gasses burning, not the wood.

Most flammable things are like this. The oxygen in the air is too diluted to have the combustion you are talking about so it takes the object you are trying to burn the need to ‘heat’ up to cause combustion.

Some chemical reactions, however, work much faster. Put some potassium in water, for example, and you have a fast chemical reaction of the potassium grabbing the oxygen’s extra electron then splitting the bond so the hydrogen atom is released which is highly flammable.


14 posted on 04/09/2012 2:20:57 PM PDT by mnehring
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It could have something to do with more still air, containing about 20% oxygen, surrounding the initial flare. Just my guess. It could be the rush of oxygen that is needed for fire.


15 posted on 04/09/2012 2:23:38 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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It could have something to do with more still air, containing about 20% oxygen, surrounding the initial flare. Just my guess. It could be the rush of oxygen that is needed for fire.


16 posted on 04/09/2012 2:24:06 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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Actually it has strangely to do with globular warming. When all the little bits come to temperance there is an understanding between them all to get the job done before quitting time aka flash point. So they arrange plans in committee in order to be more effective in their combustible relationships and therefore the end reslut.


17 posted on 04/09/2012 2:24:39 PM PDT by steveo
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It depends on the availability of temperature, oxygen and fuel at the time of ignition. In the case of the pyrolysis of wood, the flammable gases coming off the heated wood might flare then when the fire stabilizes, goes back to a more steady rate of continued ignition.

In other cases, if there is an available inrush of oxygen when the fire first starts like opening a door or window, then the oxygen flow stabilizes.

In the case of self-ignition, like rotting grass/weeds/oily rags, there is not real flare but a gradual warming, then a flame starts.

The study of fire is really neat and centers around 4 major issues: available oxygen, available fuel, temperature, and ability for a pyrolitic chain reaction to allow for the oxidation of the available fuels. Knock out any one of the 4 items and the fire goes out. So, fire suppression centers on cooling, removing or smothering fuel, reducing temperature, or somehow interupting the chain reaction at the molecular level.

18 posted on 04/09/2012 2:25:10 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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When you start a fire, the maximum surface area of the combustible material is exposed to the oxygen. After a time the burned material acts as a insulator between the oxygen in the air and the fuel. That is why a log fire needs to be stirred and prodded - to knock off the ash and carbon on the outside to expose the unburned wood.


19 posted on 04/09/2012 2:26:36 PM PDT by Feynman
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Fumes from all that gasoline.


20 posted on 04/09/2012 2:28:39 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Mirrors, magic and a littlr Luck, Lady.

/8^)

21 posted on 04/09/2012 2:29:16 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Most material catches fire gradually, heating up, and then charring and emitting flammable gas and smoke. The flare up occurs when that hot gas, smoke, and air ignites into flame.

The same process is responsible for the dangerous "flash over" that happens in house fires. Once enough hot gas, smoke, and air has accumulated, it suddenly ignites and the fire spreads rapidly.

22 posted on 04/09/2012 2:30:22 PM PDT by Rockingham
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A number of variables come into play I suppose. Dryness, water content, wind; other combustible substances, like say, pine sap that might contribute. Ever burn a dried out Christmas tree? Those suckers really burn.


23 posted on 04/09/2012 2:31:11 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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