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Neanderthal: New Images of an Ancient Enemy
http://www.themandus.org ^ | Vendramini

Posted on 03/18/2012 5:24:33 PM PDT by varmintman

Danny Venderamini's main site.

Vendramini thesis on Youtube.

All Neanderthal images here courtesy of www.themandus.org

This thing starts off with Danny Vendramini figuring out something which should have been figured out 100 years ago i.e.. that (other than for the larger brain area) a Neanderthal skull is a near perfect match for ape profiles and a very bad match for one of ours:

That is consistent with what we know about Neanderthal DNA i.e. that it's no closer to ours than to an ape's. The funny thing is that Vendramini did not tell his artist to produce the world's scariest monster, the basic order was to start with Neanderthal skulls and skeletal bones and try to flesh them out using the assumption that what you had was a bipedal, carniverous ape with an 8" fur coat (like every other ice-age animal) and the big eyes which Neanderthal eye sockets suggest for nocturnal hunting, and possibly a slightly mean look on the thing's face. The fact that what turns up looks as bad as it does to us is probably, as Vendramini suggests, due to past bad experiences with it, sort of like the instinctive human reaction to spiders and snakes:

neanderprofile, hairy ape with fur

The 8" fur coat also explains why no Neanderthal needles have ever been found...

Without the fur coat:

neanderthal 4

Neanderthal 3

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neanderthal1

Given the recent human population bottleneck, there is no way to believe that any modern human is related to this creature in any way other than for the possible re-use of low-level genetic components by an original designer or designers (the bottleneck says that if any human had any of this guy's genes we all would, not just Caucasians and East Asians), and likewise there is zero way to believe that any modern humans ever interbred with something like that. The image of the Neanderthal in popular culture and science turns out to be rubbish.

This thing was wiped out in some sort of a stone age world war and whoever wiped it out did the world a giant favor. Other than that, Danny Vendramini subscribes to a variant of the Gould/Eldredge flavor of evolutionism, nonetheless the scholarship involved in reconstructing what Neanderthals actually amounted to does not suffer from that.


TOPICS: Education; History; Science; Weird Stuff
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To: muawiyah; Lazamataz
The Neanderthals were just another "race" like blacks, whites, etc. They were a bit shorter, stockier, more well muscled, and had essentially the same brain.

Venderamini's thesis would be really easy to falsify (i.e. it's not pseudoscience); all you'd have to do would be find the first Neanderthal needle.

I'm assuming that's never gonna happen however since a creature with an 8" fur coat doesn't really need clothing or needles...

21 posted on 03/18/2012 5:58:12 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

Hey. Where’s the fig leaf! :)


22 posted on 03/18/2012 6:01:38 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: varmintman

But they sung a fine supranno due to the way their vocal cords were placed in relationship to their skulls.

Not that scary - they may have looked mean (in those renderings by some “artist”) but they were likely pussy cats in person.


23 posted on 03/18/2012 6:02:38 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: varmintman

This guy plays for the Chicago Bears I think.


24 posted on 03/18/2012 6:07:11 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Lazamataz

Re: pictures 3, 5, and 6 - Morlocks as they really should be depicted. Stuff of nightmares.


25 posted on 03/18/2012 6:09:13 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined Effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge Tomorrow on the anvil of Today.)
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To: Jonty30

The Smithsonian in DC had a display with a female in it. As an old sailor we got into a discussion would she be acceptable at 0200 after 10 beers. The answer was yes. I am not surprised that there is some of their DNA in us. Our ancestors were pretty lusty, all in all.


26 posted on 03/18/2012 6:09:22 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Neanderthal ping...with pics


27 posted on 03/18/2012 6:09:55 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Farmer Dean

They control the dhimmocrats.


28 posted on 03/18/2012 6:11:02 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Farmer Dean
That's a pretty big difference from this guy: I wish somebody would figure out once and for all what the real neanderthal looked like.
29 posted on 03/18/2012 6:11:12 PM PDT by sadponies
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To: PIF
It reminds me of something...


30 posted on 03/18/2012 6:12:09 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1153 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: PIF

They had their strengths and weaknesses. Having an 8” fur coat for instance meant they’d have to be more careful of fire than our own ancestors needed to be, i.e. it wouldn’t have been that hard for a Cro Magnon with a torch to light one of them up...


31 posted on 03/18/2012 6:15:29 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Farmer Dean

Looks like my high school football coach.


32 posted on 03/18/2012 6:16:33 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: varmintman
You'd really have to be nuts to wander about with an 8" thick fur coat playing with fire. We do have Neanderthal fireplaces AND there are needles.

Since the Neanderthal type lived in Europe over a 300,000+ period of time (as compared to our own 35,000 year occupancy) their stuff is a lot older than ours, subject to the wear and tear of FOUR ICE AGES (with innumerable glacial advances) .

Full DNA analysis has been done for only a handful of Neanderthals as yet, but they got the same stuff ~ they are people ~ not apes at all.

BTW, they could also make pigments (for painting something) and could tan hides.

As is typical of so many uninformed folks in this world, what you end up doing is attacking yet another group of red-heads!

Sure, it's a different red-yellow pigment than the more advanced humans have, but it's still red.

Portrayals of Neanderthal as BLACK or DEEP BROWN are necessarily wrong. Portrayals of other humans as WHITE at the same period of time are also wrong.

33 posted on 03/18/2012 6:22:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: varmintman
He vould have an enormous tiny schwanzstucker.
34 posted on 03/18/2012 6:28:25 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: varmintman
He vould have an enormous tiny schwanzstucker.
35 posted on 03/18/2012 6:28:39 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: muawiyah
We do have Neanderthal fireplaces AND there are needles.

That isn't the way I read it. Put up or shut up.

"The Middle Paleolithic was the time of the Neanderthal who wore clothing made of animal hides draped around the body and probably bound in place with sinew. Neanderthals did not create any surviving artwork and did not leave behind any evidence of loom or needle."

36 posted on 03/18/2012 6:28:43 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Lazamataz

Predator, that’s what you’re seeing and sensing. Sets off a primordial response. If there were instances of populations crossing paths, I have a pretty good sense of who wanted to kill and eat whom.

Of course, it’s an artist’s conceptualization and could very well be wildly wrong. It illicits the response intended.


37 posted on 03/18/2012 6:33:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Close. Lions and cheetahs are predators however and they don’t generate anything like the reaction that thing does. There’re probably some really bad racial memories involved with that thing.


38 posted on 03/18/2012 6:39:06 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

A reasonably intelligent predator much like oneself in some regards, but utterly feral in others would be more alarming than a four legged creature that has some semblance of physical beauty. A reasonably intelligent, humanoid predator would likely intertain himself rather than immediately dispatching his prey, unlike the four legged predator.

But, then again, this is an artist’s conceptualiztion, and we are no doubt reacting as intended.


39 posted on 03/18/2012 6:48:03 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: varmintman
There's always newer evidence. Over 300,000 years you have to expect all sorts of things.

I'm satisfied that Neanderthal had the dexterity and eyesight necessary to do needles. At the same time they, like everybody else in the world, probably made their needles out of wood and bone, both highly perishable

Now, the tough one, find a paleolithic stainless steel needle.

40 posted on 03/18/2012 6:50:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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