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The Hidden Risk of a Meltdown in the Cloud (The worst case scenario in Cloud Computing)
MIT Technology Review ^ | 03/15/2012

Posted on 03/15/2012 3:14:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: driftdiver

Ya. I’ve worked in data enters.

I’ve found that when it comes to hosted services, it’s cheaper to build it in house about half the time.


21 posted on 03/15/2012 4:44:30 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Those were in a private datacenter.

Yes hosting can be more expensive if you already have a datacenter. If you don’t have a datacenter then its usually cheaper.

With the cloud based servers it can be much cheaper. I have go out and have a server built with OS in under 5 minutes. For a low end server running a web app and database it costs me about $25 bucks a month.


22 posted on 03/15/2012 4:53:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I said, Hey! You! Get off of my cloud Hey! You! Get off of my cloud
Hey! You! Get off of my cloud
Don't hang around 'cause two's a crowd n my cloud, baby

23 posted on 03/15/2012 4:54:45 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Sorry, I have to take offense, I am both a PM and work with cloud products, I don’t do what I am told. I do what I tell them needs to be done to complete the project. And then I make it happen, with integrity and a focus on quality.

Then again, might as well blame the PM. That’s part of our job description whether we are at fault or not. I get paid a lot of money to be a sh*t magnet.


24 posted on 03/15/2012 5:22:27 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: driftdiver

Great price. Now with the project NASA and Rackspace are working on to create open source for the cloud, you will be able to create your own interface into the cloud and configure whatever you want. Will be even cheaper in the future.


25 posted on 03/15/2012 5:25:22 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Problem solved.


26 posted on 03/15/2012 5:27:09 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: driftdiver

Hopefully your customers didn’t lose any data when Amazon had their outage a while back.

“They use local servers for the highly sensitive data”

Why you told me the cloud was secure...

That’s the problem, with the cloud you never know who has been snooping you data. But I get the feeling you really don’t care, its all about $$.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 7:23:48 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: ShadowAce

FYI


28 posted on 03/15/2012 8:10:47 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Swordmaker; ShadowAce; Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; ...

We need to fight this tooth and nail, because it’s based on Keynesian Infonomics!

Thanks SeekAndFind.

:’)


29 posted on 03/15/2012 8:22:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.)
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To: driftdiver

if you believe that I have a bridge for sale.


30 posted on 03/15/2012 8:46:44 PM PDT by willyd (your credibility deficit is screwing up my bs meter...)
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To: willyd

believe what? $25/ month? I have the credit card statements so yes I believe it. Of course you can spend more but my needs are modest. Some of my customers spend much more.

Or that you can spend $40,000 on infrastructure? ha, yeah I believe that too.


31 posted on 03/16/2012 2:46:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: desertfreedom765

“Hopefully your customers didn’t lose any data when Amazon had their outage a while back.”

Yeah, because a privately held datacenter has never gone down before, not in the history of mankind. pffft

“Why you told me the cloud was secure...”

Sure it is, its reasonably secure but its not the only answer. Good grief man, you select the model that best meets the requirements.

“That’s the problem, with the cloud you never know who has been snooping you data. But I get the feeling you really don’t care, its all about $$”

Well thanks for your personal attack sport. The fact is the cloud based providers are FAR more secure than the average datacenter. They have gone to great lengths to build and operate their centers properly. They are for more cost effective in many cases than buying your own.

I don’t make any money off hosting or selling computers. I make my money making them more secure.


32 posted on 03/16/2012 2:53:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Or I can buy my own server for $20,000 and another $20,000 for the firewall and associated equipment.

Wow.

Remind me to never hire you to do my purchasing.

33 posted on 03/16/2012 4:41:34 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Just one more example that you don’t know what you are talking about.

By the way I’m not purchasing.


34 posted on 03/16/2012 5:03:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I just sold about 38K in Sonic Walls to a local school district here. And that was after I skinnied things down by losing the HA and GSM pieces. So I totally believe your numbers.

We don’t make much on the hardware, obviously although SW treats their VAR base very well IMO. The money is in the billable hours...

Have a great weekend.


35 posted on 03/16/2012 9:31:13 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any idiot out there could see where the ‘Cloud’ was going. You trust your data to the cloud, you’ll be cryin’ in the rain down the road.

The major advantage the cloud has to software companies is control over the quality and ongoing health of their installations. Less customer service cost. Higher margins.

You end up paying once you end up having to buy the servers as use picks up. Everyone in the cloud is underbuying server capacity. Cost of electricity is a big deal here - for cooling especially.


36 posted on 03/16/2012 9:39:05 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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