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To: Sherman Logan

I think the seeds of the destruction of this nation were sown before the nation became a nation. It is in our acceptance of slavery and even protecting it with the creation of the nation.

We will never recover. Slavery was fatal to us. It has just taken a long time for the infection to kill us, even though the original projectile was removed by the Civil War.


7 posted on 03/06/2012 8:51:01 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

While violently anti-slavery, I must admit that those who foresaw its abolition as creating huge problems for future generations have turned out to largely be correct.

Their diagnosis was correct, even though I differ greatly as to the appropriate treatment.


10 posted on 03/06/2012 8:56:08 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: cuban leaf

Slavery existed throughtout history in every country of the world, long before there was a United States.


Something most school kids are never taught


17 posted on 03/06/2012 9:05:57 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: cuban leaf
It is in our acceptance of slavery and even protecting it with the creation of the nation.

Indeed.

Locke's defense of slavery is the one gaping "WTF?" moment in the Second Treatise. Likewise, Founders really screwed over subsequent generations of Americans by failing to resolve this issue when the nation was founded. Granted, I understand the realpolitik of why this happened, but the end result was not good.

I call myself a libertarian, and I fully subscribe to the notion that states had (and have) a "right" to secede from the Union. But I also cannot square in my own mind the righteousness of states seceding from the Union in order to perpetuate the power of allowing humans to own other human beings.

20 posted on 03/06/2012 9:25:22 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: cuban leaf

I could not have said it better myself.


21 posted on 03/06/2012 9:25:29 AM PST by MachIV
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To: cuban leaf
It is in our acceptance of slavery

Aristotle accepted slavery.

ML/NJ

25 posted on 03/06/2012 9:35:52 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: cuban leaf

“I think the seeds of the destruction of this nation were sown before the nation became a nation. It is in our acceptance of slavery and even protecting it with the creation of the nation.
We will never recover. Slavery was fatal to us. It has just taken a long time for the infection to kill us, even though the original projectile was removed by the Civil War.”

Some harvests of wrath take centuries to grow.

You’re right, of course. The finest observation I ever read on the peculiar institution:
“We should have picked our own cotton.”

Somebody else wrote that, but I wrote this:
“We should have mowed our own lawns....”


58 posted on 03/06/2012 1:24:38 PM PST by Road Glide
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