[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[Larry Lucido]

They patented a gesture?

I wonder if anyone has the patent on the gesture for hailing a cab? I could be rich!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Fascinating....

Got to check on this Neonode company;

[VanDeKoik]

Neonode is gonna make bank.

[Swordmaker]

Article claims Apple did not invent the swipe to open iPhone, iPad, iPod touch movement but that Maagnus Goertz of Sweden did and assigned it to NeoNode of Santa Clara, CA, three years before Apple claimed to have invented it—PING!

Patent applied for on December 10, 2002, granted January 10, 2012!

Apple Patents Ping!

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[Swordmaker]

12. The computer readable medium of claim 1, wherein the user interface is characterised in, that an active application, function, service or setting is advanced one step by gliding the object along the touch sensitive area from left to right, and that the active application, function, service or setting is closed or backed one step by gliding the object along the touch sensitive area from right to left.

There is a major difference... the object the NeoNode patent is referring to is a finger, a stylus, a hot dog, or any other item touching the touch sensitive surface from one side in general to a specific location on the screen to a menu or location.. Apple's patent refers to touching a GRAPHIC OBJECT or ICON on the screen and sliding the graphic object or icon to a specific location! At no time in the NeoNode patent does it mention dragging a virtual screen object to a location... it mentions dragging an object external to the screen to a menu or location ON the screen to activate the choice.

The drawings accompanying NeoNode's assigned invention DO NOT show any object underneath the finger being moved... only target objects that the finger will reach after moving from a blank area of the screen on the left! These target icons will appear, according to the invention, when the "object" is placed on the touch sensitive screen, in preparation to move from the left to select one of the "menu items" on the right. This is not the same invention at all.

Claim 12 specifically it mentions moving from the screen object from Right to Left to cancel that object's actions. Again, that is not something that Apple's invention does.

I read the entire patent. And the claims. One must read exactly what is being described, looking at the drawings and reading the descriptions the inventor provided for the drawings. . . not what one wishes was being described. . .

[Swordmaker]

Looking at the Daily Tech's article, it is so incoherently and incompetently written, that the author claims the phone they are claiming predates the iPhone, the nM1 is a "touch" phone... it is NOT... it uses nine infra-red diodes, aimed at infra-red sensors in an array to determine by timing the positioning of a finger by movement across a non-touchscreen LCD display!

There are NO icons to move at all... it cannot move anything in real time in response to a finger movement! It can only detect that you moved your finger in certain directions... and then change the static display. YES, the swipe from left to right to answer a phone... and to unlock it... but they are NOT doing what Apple's invention does. Read Apple's invention's claims and you will see the glaring differences. In fact, NeoNode's phone does not even USE Magnus Goertz's touch screen invention at all!