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Wind power plug pulled in Illinois
WUWT ^ | 2/16/2012 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 02/17/2012 9:47:21 AM PST by Signalman

The wind power industry is predicting massive layoffs and stalled or abandoned projects after a deal to renew a tax credit failed Thursday in Washington.

The move is expected to have major ramifications in states such as Illinois, where 13,892 megawatts of planned wind projects — enough to power 3.3 million homes per year — are seeking to be connected to the electric grid. Many of those projects will be abandoned or significantly delayed without federal subsidies.

The state is home to more than 150 companies that support the wind industry. At least 67 of those make turbines or components for wind farms. Chicago is the U.S. headquarters to more than a dozen major wind companies that wanted to take advantage of powerful Midwestern winds.


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KEYWORDS: blogpimp; energy; illinois; wind; windindustry; windpower
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To: The Great RJ

Years ago i drove through Palm Springs, and like you viewed some props turning, some not.

I am telling you, and I have yet to hear someone on this forum refute me, the wind mills in Illinois along the I74 to I55 corridor NEVER STOP ROTATING!!!!!!!

Like Ethanol this is another scam put over the public.

It’s time to throw the bums out. Sorry, Santorum is a good and decent guy, but like Romney he is beholding to the establishment in Washington, probably more so.


21 posted on 02/17/2012 12:05:05 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: Scythian
if we covered the entire state of Nevada in solar panels we could power the entire US ...

It takes a 40 acre solar farm to supply one third the power of one average-sized coal-fired plant, and only on days with adequate sun.

You could cover the entire US and still not produce enough power to supply one day's needs in the US, but then everyone in the US would have to live underground, never emerging lest they cast a shadow and decrease the amount of power needed by everyone else. And there still would be rolling brown and black outs in that perfect Utopian world.

Casting a shadow would be a capital offense ...

22 posted on 02/17/2012 12:22:58 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Scythian

So when the sun goes down in Nevada we just wait in the dark eating our ice cream before it melts? ;-)


23 posted on 02/17/2012 3:11:46 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: PIF

LOL, thanks man, you made me laugh hard, still, I know I read that somewhere, I guess I was wrong.


24 posted on 02/17/2012 3:57:13 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Window power is a no go.

I would think so...

THIS PLUS PLUS

Does NOT equal this...


25 posted on 02/17/2012 5:07:12 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: nascarnation

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2011/04/18/sasols-plan-for-north-american-shale-gas-turn-it-into-diesel/

To convert coal or gas into liquid fuels Sasol (2010 profits of $2.3 billion on $17 billion sales) uses something called the Fischer-Tropsch process that was developed by German scientists in the 1920s. It later helped fuel Hitler’s war effort. Later, perfection of the process helped South Africa fuel its economy during the apartheid years; in South Africa Sasol makes 190,000 barrels per day of fuel from coal. Because the process removes any pollutants like sulfur and heavy metals, the resultant diesel is the cleanest burning in the world.


It still takes diesel to efficiently produce the heavy-hauling power; but natural gas can produce the diesel. So can coal.

And we have centuries of each, to give us a stable domestic fuel supply, while INDUSTRY works out something better without tax moneys.

SASOL is just ONE company out of several, that are making profits with this rather old technology.

It works; therefore, Greenies are against it.


26 posted on 02/17/2012 5:27:47 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If their "Alternative" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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To: PIF

“It takes a 40 acre solar farm to supply one third the power of one average-sized coal-fired plant, and only on days with adequate sun.”

Not by my numbers. I get 1 MegaWatt per acre, and that’s fully covered. In reality, the best you might do is one third coverage. Using that number, you’d need 1500 acres (several square miles) to get to 500 MW...which is probably what an average coal plant is. And then you have to factor in night time and clouds, so figure 10 square miles. We’re talking HUGE areas...much bigger than people can remotely imagine.


27 posted on 02/18/2012 11:40:04 AM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: BobL

You are probably more accurate. I was simpily doing a very rough estimate. But as I said, you’d need to cover the entire US with solar panels in order to just get close to today’s power demands. And then there are all those Chevy Volts ...

Go Green with Solar Power! Become a nation of underground dwellers!


28 posted on 02/18/2012 2:21:26 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: ApplegateRanch

ROFL!


29 posted on 02/18/2012 4:56:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: The Great RJ

From what I have heard, if there isn’t any wind, the blades rotate by using electricity.

Hell of a deal.


30 posted on 02/18/2012 5:01:24 PM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

To make money you’ve got to spend money, prime the swamp to get it going.


31 posted on 02/21/2012 6:34:41 AM PST by Reeses
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