The Supreme Court has said:
“Nothing is better settled at the common law than the doctrine that the children even of aliens born in a country while the parents are resident there under the protection of the government and owing a temporary allegiance thereto are subjects by birth.”
and then
“The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in the declaration that
“all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,”
contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization. Citizenship by naturalization can only be acquired by naturalization under the authority and in the forms of law. But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization.”
So there you go. Based on common law (the basis of jurisprudence in the United States), a person born in the country is a citizen of the country at birth. The Supreme Court then says that there are only two ways to be a citizen of the United States: to be born as a citizen or to be naturalized as a citizen.
There is NO magic third definition.
That’s what the Supreme Court says.
The 14th Amendment has nothing to do with Article II presidential eligibility and the term natural born Citizen is NOT mentioned even once in it's wording.
Natural born is from natural law, and requires no man made law or legislation.
Neither of your examples even mentions the term:
NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
You're wasting your time. The NBC crowd are basically impervious to any argument or line of constitutional analysis that doesn't stop and start with Vattel. Some of them will, to be sure, produce page after page of verbiage and case citations, but what it all boils down to is, "Vattel reigns supreme. Period."
(One of the NBCers even told me that "natural born" and "naturalized by birth" were different concepts! You simply can reason with such a person.)
‘Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization.”
born in the US = US citizen, but not necessarily a natural born citizen!
If you are born in the US to one or more non-US citizen parents, then you are subject to more than 1 jurisdiction
( you are subject to jurisdiction of US and your parent(s)’s country.) In this case you can still be considered US citizen (if the ‘birthright citizenship’ stands) but most certainly NOT a natural born citizen!
Natural born citizen is citizenship by nature - acquired by birth place and parentage - totally natural, no law can confer this kind of citizenship!
It is not that hard to understand!
Do not purposedly mix US citizen with naural born citizen!