[fishtank]

ICR is now producing short video clips.

Good stuff!

[SampleMan]

Imagine the water resulting from all those melting glaciers at the ending of the multiple ice ages.

At a minimum, 100x the current maximum flow, not to mention vastly larger floods from the bursting of ice dams.

[WayneS]

Bush’s fault?

[JerseyHighlander]

In advance, I’m sorry maybe.

Is this a spoof or not?

[fso301]

Aside from irritating music and jerky video, what are we to surmise from this video?

[stormer]

Codswallop. There is a significant difference between the energy (and time) needed for water to erode solid rock versus unconsolidated ash and mud as is found at Mt. St. Helens. While the structures appear superficially similar, the substrates are as different as beach sand and sandstone.

[chuckles]

If you measure the water flow through the river and average it over a year, you might come up with a long time period to carve out the canyon. What we don't know is what was the water flow when the cutting was going on.

What if,.....and inland sea, like the Great Salt Lake broke it's banks and rushed to find sea level? How long would several square miles of water take to find sea level,.... a few days? Did Salt Lake spring a leak and form the Salt Flats? If there were and inland sea that lost it's banks, the canyon could have been carved very fast and then slow to nothing as the river slowed to today's speed.

A very convincing case can be made for a young canyon as well as an old canyon. Science has now degenerated to a political bias that will alter data and physically cover up facts to keep the old bias. Just think of the problems caused if some facts were uncovered that proved a young earth? History books, science funding, ect. How stupid would they look having to change the spiel the park rangers spew every day?

I have so many books in my library that have been PROVEN bogus that I am dubious on every claim today. Every few months there is a headline that says everything has changed and must be re evaluated. Using imagination to come up with a theory is easier than relying on facts. Unless they can come up with facts showing the river flow rate, they are just making up the time element. I've personally seen hundreds of feet of dirt washed away in one or two days, so we don't really know how big the deluge was or even if there were more than one. We already know for a fact that many inland seas have broken lose, we just don't know for sure if the Canyon was formed by that or a river cutting for millions of years. Why are we pretending to know for sure?

[Osage Orange]

I think many eyes were opened after Mount St. Helens....

Scientists were witness to...many events that they thought took thousands of years....that only took a few years.

FWIW-

[Moonman62]

Wow! And some people think conservatives are ignorant.

[reed13k]

I saw a documentary a few years ago discussing the south dakota badlands and certain features all the way into the pacific that discussed how a melting glacier will create a dam that then catastrophically fail. It had been demonstrated more recently in Greenland which led to the further investigation. It’s believed that this glacier resulted in a rush of backed up water so great that it created many of the erosion features in the badlands as well as the depositions in the pacific and that the features were created in a matter of hours instead of eons.

I’m unsure the exact layout, but at the time I was impressed at the geological effects across such a wide area that could only be explained by a sweeping torrent of water moving rapidly - and of course that it could also tie in just as well with a Genesis flood.

[fishtank]

Photo Bureau of Reclamation, U.S. Dept of the Interior

Glen Canyon Dam tunnel spillway damage in 1983