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1 posted on 01/12/2012 6:02:02 PM PST by smokingfrog
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33 posted on 01/12/2012 6:47:19 PM PST by Fireone (Building the gallows, this one has two nooses.)
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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -

-- George Orwell

35 posted on 01/12/2012 6:51:31 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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Clinton and Obama are worried that the Taliban might not talk to us now! These jerks are cutting people’s heads off and blowing up innocent civilians the world over. Why do we give a crap if the Taliban will talk to us.


39 posted on 01/12/2012 6:59:19 PM PST by discipler (How's that 'hope and change' working for 'ya? - RL)
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I had a guy working for me in the 80s who had been a door gunner in a chopper in Vietnam. In a period of about 6 years he literally drank himself to death. Nobody, including several brothers nor his parents were able to help him. I’d much rather he’d let off some tension by pi$$ing on some dead sloughpeds if that would have helped him to cope.


49 posted on 01/12/2012 7:34:03 PM PST by Tucker39
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Muslims will hate us as they hate all non Muslims (and at least half of the other sects of Islam). They have hated all non-Muslims since Mad Mo started that thieves faith.

My suggestion for an appropriate response: No hot pizza while on patrol, not for a whole week!

;-)


54 posted on 01/12/2012 8:04:50 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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In war the enemy is generally dehumanized.

If we didn’t do it, we couldn’t kill them like we do.

I’m not saying it’s nice or good. I’m saying that’s the way it is. For everyone. Not just Americans.


56 posted on 01/12/2012 8:16:47 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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OK, slap on the wrist.

You weren’t nice, guys. (And certainly not high class.)

Move on.

Somehow I doubt all our sensitive ever-loving liberals would be upset at all of a pix of guys urinating upon dead NAZIs.


57 posted on 01/12/2012 8:48:52 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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The national hero of Romania, the Christian Prince of Wallachia, Vlad Tepes III, also known as Vlad the Impaler (or by his patronymic name as Dracula, son of the Dragon Vlad II Dracul), prevented the further expansion of the Muslim Ottoman Empire into the Balkans and ultimately Europe. The Ottoman army turned back in fright when it encountered over tens of thousands of impaled muslims on the bank of the Danube. This was part of Pope Pius II's new Crusade of 1459.

During the initial encounters, the Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II, the conqueror of Constantinople, sent envoys to Vlad to urge him to pay a delayed Jizya (tax on non-Muslims) of 10,000 ducats and 500 recruits into the Ottoman forces. Vlad refused, because if he had paid the 'tribute', it would have meant a public acceptance of Wallachia as part of the Ottoman Empire. Vlad refused and had the Turkish envoys killed,with the excuse that they had refused to raise their hats to him, and did this by nailing their turbans to their heads.

Further, in 1462 Mehmed , a man noted for his own psychological warfare tactics, returned to Constantinople after being sickened by the sight of 20,000 impaled corpses outside Vlad's capital of Târgoviște

Why bring all this up?

First, it points out that the most effective psychological warfare in fighting muslims down through history is to do things that effectively stop them, using force that works.Pissing on corpses is nothing, and if our liberal friends hadn't wanted to bring it up- the Taliban would never know-- they don't do youtube.

Second, the Taliban and the US are currently secretly in negotiations (Hamid Karzai's govt.and his now dead brother being opium gangleader rivals to the Taliban- FACT- a criminal druglord we support).

Third, the most convenient tool for stopping what is already a scandalous negotiation by our ultra liberal drug loving leftist obama/hillary govt. who are making the world safe for heroin, is to TRASH our devoted military with something that is 8 years old (so this would have happened under Bush, not obama, but yet still be blamed on our forces for the crummy purposes of the military hating liberal dems). This smacks of Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, and anything that is offensive to our protected enemy brotherhood raised to ever higher sensitivity levels. Have y'all noticed how quickly Panetta and Hillary JUMPED to condemn our forces- who provided this video and how long have they had it? Panetta was in CIA- and I suspect his hand in this, and now he is secdef to downsize our military, while asking it to do more, so it will fail. Liberals love to do this.

58 posted on 01/12/2012 8:51:59 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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The correct response from Conservatives in all this is to ask-- now that we have eliminated bin Laden, just WHAT is our mission in Afghanistan-- why are we still there? Could it be rare earth metals and a pipeline dear to liberals (not the one from Canada of course).

Challenge them. Don't let them brand our military with something absolutely trivial like this, which is mission damaging (and therefore should never have been released-incidentally, how was this released/leaked?) for their own negotiating purposes. Push the sainted Ms. Hillary to talk about the Taliban negotiations she is screwing up-- why are we indeed doing that? Are we negotiating the muslim Jizya we will pay to Karzai and the Taliban,as they divide the drug trade, so we can stay? We can leave afghanistan to fight out their drug turf on their own, right now-- mission accomplished for certain. Have we learned nothing from the British Empire and the failed Soviet war there? There is nothing there we need- right? The answer is: the Chinese will come in to get the rare earth metals. And we might be letting them by using this kind of ploy to tip the hand. And that is the dirty little secret. But that should be plainly spoken if we are to continue to run down the best fighting forces on the earth. I hate obamunistas and clintonistas-- they are true scum. And Panetta is in this up to his neck. Semper Fi.

59 posted on 01/12/2012 9:02:12 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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> There were a lot of kids who imitated things they saw or read in Vietnam War films or literature.

And all of those films are John Kerry inspired to show America in a bad light.


63 posted on 01/13/2012 5:05:19 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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War, particular modern mechanized war is dehumanizing to all involved.

Desecration of a corpse is never excusable. However we know that the enemy does this routinely, so while it should not happen, is it an affront to treat an enemy as they have treated you?

We’d love to live by the turn the other cheek mantra, and do unto others... however in spite of our best efforts, we will always have an eye for an eye within us all. Anyone who thinks there is no evil within them, has not lived.

There is darkness in every human being, some far more than others, but it is in all of us, and under the right circumstances it will surface.

The desecration should not be made light of, but it should be taken within context, and not being a combat veteran of a war against a terrorist and honorless enemy, I will yield to the military authorities the judgment they provide to these folks.


64 posted on 01/13/2012 5:17:05 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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All they did was wizz on some terrorist corpses? Oh fer petes sake. We live in a wussified culture.


68 posted on 01/13/2012 8:45:06 AM PST by opus86
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Brizzarro world - piss on a bloodthirsty enemy who would have ripped your head off to put on a pike and the world is collectively shocked beyond belief.

Be a freeloading, stoner, quasi-hippie who his unwashed, smelly drawers to publicly crap on a police car and no one says a peep!!!!

73 posted on 01/13/2012 2:03:04 PM PST by IrishPennant (We don't want to work so we go to work to make enough money not to work...Huh?)
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Slap those Dems!




74 posted on 01/13/2012 3:22:25 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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