Posted on 01/12/2012 6:01:56 PM PST by smokingfrog
Alex Lemons, a former Marine sergeant who deployed to Iraq three times – including once as scout sniper – reflects on the video of four Marines urinating on the corpses of three dead Taliban in Afghanistan:
This is all very painful to me on so many different levels. Back in 2004 one of my fellow snipers shot someone in a mosque in Fallujah. You will probably remember it getting on TV. It was very confusing. I have tried stopping things like this before or I’ve been a coward and let them happen.
In my eyes, there are several discomforting or significant things about this event:
– If you aren’t surprised and disgusted by this as a combatant, veteran or as a civilian whose country has been at war for a decade, then maybe you need to take a look in the mirror. Have you become this callous?
– I’d like to know how many tours those grunts have been on. Do we know what condition they are in mentally? Are any on medications?
– This happened a lot in Fallujah II 2004 and I have a couple explanations. There were a lot of kids who imitated things they saw or read in Vietnam War films or literature. You always look back on the last war to explain your own.
Sometimes, Marines needed to take pictures and laugh about the death swirling around them because if they took it seriously and grieved then they would not be able to function and continue the fight.
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2 things there LV.
Make sure you tape it.
I get a copy. ;-))
When the “Plant manager from hell” died a few years ago we all hoped he would be buried in a local cemetery as we didn’t want to charter a bus, go all the way to the swamps of Louisiana just to p!$$ on his grave.
And we would have done it! There would never be a blade of grass grow on his grave if he were buried here!
Correct
War must be fast, overwhelming and FINAL.
I will let the combat vets to pass judgement here-—if any.
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Had these Marines been prisoners of the Taliban, we would have watched their heads being sawed off on videos posted on Democrat Underground. My view: Kill all of the enemy, all the time. Then, if the firefight is over, piss on the them. Laugh. A lot. Spit bacon grease on them.
If anyone thinks we are not in a fight to the death with Islam, then you will be one of the first to die.
I had a guy working for me in the 80s who had been a door gunner in a chopper in Vietnam. In a period of about 6 years he literally drank himself to death. Nobody, including several brothers nor his parents were able to help him. I’d much rather he’d let off some tension by pi$$ing on some dead sloughpeds if that would have helped him to cope.
War wouldn’t be any fun without dead enemies.
I could’ve posted pics of what the death cult has done to our soldiers or contractors, but I thought those sentiments were more appropriate for the occasion.
Yeah, man.
My nephew is one of the Leavenworth Ten.
God bless your nephew!....hopefully we can get some sanity back into the military chain-of-command and get our boys released.
Muslims will hate us as they hate all non Muslims (and at least half of the other sects of Islam). They have hated all non-Muslims since Mad Mo started that thieves faith.
My suggestion for an appropriate response: No hot pizza while on patrol, not for a whole week!
;-)
LOL!
In war the enemy is generally dehumanized.
If we didn’t do it, we couldn’t kill them like we do.
I’m not saying it’s nice or good. I’m saying that’s the way it is. For everyone. Not just Americans.
OK, slap on the wrist.
You weren’t nice, guys. (And certainly not high class.)
Move on.
Somehow I doubt all our sensitive ever-loving liberals would be upset at all of a pix of guys urinating upon dead NAZIs.
During the initial encounters, the Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II, the conqueror of Constantinople, sent envoys to Vlad to urge him to pay a delayed Jizya (tax on non-Muslims) of 10,000 ducats and 500 recruits into the Ottoman forces. Vlad refused, because if he had paid the 'tribute', it would have meant a public acceptance of Wallachia as part of the Ottoman Empire. Vlad refused and had the Turkish envoys killed,with the excuse that they had refused to raise their hats to him, and did this by nailing their turbans to their heads.
Further, in 1462 Mehmed , a man noted for his own psychological warfare tactics, returned to Constantinople after being sickened by the sight of 20,000 impaled corpses outside Vlad's capital of Târgoviște
Why bring all this up?
First, it points out that the most effective psychological warfare in fighting muslims down through history is to do things that effectively stop them, using force that works.Pissing on corpses is nothing, and if our liberal friends hadn't wanted to bring it up- the Taliban would never know-- they don't do youtube.
Second, the Taliban and the US are currently secretly in negotiations (Hamid Karzai's govt.and his now dead brother being opium gangleader rivals to the Taliban- FACT- a criminal druglord we support).
Third, the most convenient tool for stopping what is already a scandalous negotiation by our ultra liberal drug loving leftist obama/hillary govt. who are making the world safe for heroin, is to TRASH our devoted military with something that is 8 years old (so this would have happened under Bush, not obama, but yet still be blamed on our forces for the crummy purposes of the military hating liberal dems). This smacks of Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, and anything that is offensive to our protected enemy brotherhood raised to ever higher sensitivity levels. Have y'all noticed how quickly Panetta and Hillary JUMPED to condemn our forces- who provided this video and how long have they had it? Panetta was in CIA- and I suspect his hand in this, and now he is secdef to downsize our military, while asking it to do more, so it will fail. Liberals love to do this.
Challenge them. Don't let them brand our military with something absolutely trivial like this, which is mission damaging (and therefore should never have been released-incidentally, how was this released/leaked?) for their own negotiating purposes. Push the sainted Ms. Hillary to talk about the Taliban negotiations she is screwing up-- why are we indeed doing that? Are we negotiating the muslim Jizya we will pay to Karzai and the Taliban,as they divide the drug trade, so we can stay? We can leave afghanistan to fight out their drug turf on their own, right now-- mission accomplished for certain. Have we learned nothing from the British Empire and the failed Soviet war there? There is nothing there we need- right? The answer is: the Chinese will come in to get the rare earth metals. And we might be letting them by using this kind of ploy to tip the hand. And that is the dirty little secret. But that should be plainly spoken if we are to continue to run down the best fighting forces on the earth. I hate obamunistas and clintonistas-- they are true scum. And Panetta is in this up to his neck. Semper Fi.
Our guys are being betrayed by our own government.
Half or more of the people in power sympathize with and abet the enemy and resent and abuse our own troops. It’s a given for American’s “intellectuals” to side with whoever hates America as much as they do and the same with our State Department. Some of them are in the upper ranks of the military. Many of them are in Congress and we have a Muslim in the White House. There is a special place in hell for all of these soulless, destructive creatures.
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