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Abstract of paper to be presented by Franceso Celani at World Sustainable Energy Conference WSEC 10-12 January 2012.

http://www.22passi.it/downloads/Celani%20Abstract.doc

1 posted on 01/09/2012 5:33:32 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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http://www.22passi.it/downloads/Celani%20Abstract.doc


2 posted on 01/09/2012 5:34:21 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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Translation” What benefits, when, how wide spread, how practical, how safe, how expensive?


3 posted on 01/09/2012 5:45:14 AM PST by MindBender26 (Don't bother me with the small stuff. I'm too busy trying to save the Republic from Obamaism)
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NONSENSE AND BALDERDASH! Bunk, lies, and exaggeration. Fibs and prevarication. No truth to any of it.


4 posted on 01/09/2012 5:50:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (Romney is the Pale Obama. That's all.)
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There is a typo or translation error:
As far as recent claims of very large excess power using “micro-nano-sized Nickel” interacting with H2 at high pressure and temperatures are concerned, coming from groups operating in Italy and Greece, we have to underline that both groups refused (because, according to them, patents/business constrains), up to now, independent tests of their apparatus: then, we cannot give scientific credit, as to-day, to their work. BTW, on November 2011, F. Celani asked to the Italian A. Rossi, through a widespread science magazine (Focus), to validate one of his 10kW's device. Even the public “persuasion” of the Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson was not enough to get such device for scientific, fully independent, tests.
Based on this, Celani seems to be backing away from Rossi and Defkalion, which is probably a smart move on his part.
13 posted on 01/09/2012 7:40:25 AM PST by Johnny B.
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Greetings, Like you, I don't have a ton of extra time but I do want to read on the most promising examples of LENR so if you get time after work, would you please point me in the correct direction? I've been perusing the LENR-CANR.org site but I would like to zero in on the most promising.

Three questions though. Forget whether it's real or not, they're seeing something so lets assume it is real. With what you know, say in twenty years, are we all going to have home based LENR systems or is it going to be on the grid or both keeping in mind our wonderful NRC.

I've spent some free time skimming the Larsen-Widom theory and it seems that there is a simple way to prove it occurs and that is helium output, is that correct? When I've got time I'll read the whole thing.

Do any of the successful LENR experiments mentioned in the above posting, do any start with radioactive materiel? And, I know this sounds stupid but, can you drink heavy water?

Back in '89 it was easy to suppress P&F but now too many are involved. I hope for LENR's sake, Rossi has something or it will have a serious negative effect on getting funding for this work since labs seem to be in a vicious competition to get funding, especially after seeing what they did to Taleyarkhan not to mention what MIT did. I'm no believer in Peak Oil seeing as how previously played out wells seem to be refilling themselves but this is just what we need although I wouldn't have a problem if they went on a crash building program for 100 already proven fission reactors.

Although this is only opinion and everyone already knows everyone else's opinion and facts on Rossi so it would be better to not start another 100 post flame war where we just go back and forth. But, I feel that Rossi owes it to these other researchers to prove his device once and for all. He'll still get credit and probably an incredible amount of money as well as funding for a complete lab.

I would so much like this to be real, even if it takes another twenty years to get it commercially viable.

16 posted on 01/09/2012 9:02:00 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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The competition.
20 posted on 01/09/2012 10:17:57 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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Nevertheless, we believe that so many evidences have been collected by serious Scientists up to now, that the reality of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions may be soon acknowledged by the whole scientific community, opening the way towards the fully exploration of their potential for practical applications and long term sustainability of this, practically infinite, energy source.

The author cites quantity, but the problem is a lack of quality. The "many evidences" lack consistency and predictability that would imply a workable underlying theory.

The article starts off with a mention of catalyzed muon fusion, which is real and scientifically accepted. It was explained theoretically within a year of its observation with technology from over 50 years ago. Compare that with the wheel spinning and fraud that surrounds modern cold fusion.

22 posted on 01/09/2012 2:06:17 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Thanks for posting this, WW

The Cold Fusion Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


27 posted on 01/09/2012 8:44:54 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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