Posted on 01/07/2012 8:41:23 AM PST by shoedog
Newt has the right to fight back against his competitors, I have no problem with that. However when he starts by sounding like Obama and using the class warfare card on Romney's wealth, it is just plain stupid. Now his latest quip about taxing the blind, and scraping the bottom of the barrell is just more over the top whining. I really think Newt is probably the smartest and best informed candidate. However, his achilles heal has always been his ego, and the inability to handle rejection or negativity (a major part of politics) in a grown up fashion. It goes back to his complaining of having to get off the back of the plane with Clinton and has reappeared in this campaign. I can not longer think of him as a viable candidate.
"It" happened?
This is what happened.
Apparently Newt wanted to talk to Clinton about the budget. Clinton instead was hiding in the front of the plane. Newt, complained that by being in the back of the plane, that he didn't have access to the president to talk about the budget.
You actually have a problem with that?
As I said, I really don't understand this latest fad I see some participating in around here, which is defending Mitt when Newt criticizes him.
Based on your post, I will now add to that...
I really don't understand another fad I see some participating in, which is defending Bill Clinton (Obama, Democrats...etc) when Newt legitimately criticizes them.
Maybe you need to diagram that sentence and determine what it means, and read it in the context of my full post. It's just reflective of what has and hasn't worked in previous debates.
"Going after" other candidates has not worked in these primary debates. Past polls have proven that and Bachmann is the best example. And Perry didn't help himself by trying to go after Romney during a couple of debates.
As has been proven time and again, the negative approach works best if done by someone other than the candidate. Just the reality of politics in the USA.
But Newt decides to be his own hatchet man, we'll have another example of whether or not it works.
I think Newt will explain his objections to the distortions against him by the Paul/Romney camps in a very professorial way, rather than screaming into the face of the candidates (a la Bachmann). And by the time he’s through, both will be eviscerated.
Agreed...the media is terrified of a Gingrich nomination...Obama would have to debate him, and as he’s shown, he can’t.
Mr. Obama is not that smart. Lacking a teleprompter he’d end up sputtering nonsense into the tv cameras.
Gingrich would win in a landslide. Romney...would kiss Obama’s butt day in and day out, to show he’s not a racist and HE WILL LOSE!
Brilliant rejoiner! :D
Except I don’t think it’s my quote?...
You're right. That a sentence of mine that sort of summarized what I've been saying about whether direct confrontation helps or hurts candidates in these debates.
I have no idea if this is a Romney defense tactic or a Republican who is tired of their candidate not seeming to pass the “electability” test set out by the media. A conservative will NEVER pass the media’s test. We need to bolster our candidates by not falling for media tricks.
Newt’s latest criticism of Romney points out how Romney raised taxes to the tune of 700+ million while governor.....the tax on the blind to get certified only illustrated how widespread and desperate these taxes actually were that Romney signed in. Newt’s points were spot on...they dealt with Romney’s record.
Every Republican candidate will have their flaws. Every candidate will flub up. But Newt hasn’t flubbed too much, IMO. Yesterday, in an interview on CBS morning show, he was justifiably angry about being called a racist about comments he made about paychecks vs. food stamps (regarding desiring to speak to the NAACP). I was really surprised when a talking head, Joe Klein, actually defended Newt after the exchange. Last time I checked, Joe Klein was in the left wing media camp.....but, he gave a better defense of Newt than a lot of our conservative side has done (excluding MaHa Rushie, of course.)
We need to keep bolstering our most conservative candidates and pick the best one. This race is not over.
You’re wrong.
There is no choice WHATSOEVER when the choices are Obama or Obama-lite.
If we nominate Obama-lite Willard, we’ve already lost our conservatism principles. Period.
A vote for Willard or Obama is a vote for $50 abortions, INTRUSIVE mandates, big goverment exchanges, death panels, and massive government subsidies for healthcare. Oh, and did I mention that RomneyCare contains the public option which even Obama said was going tooooooo far WHICH makes Romney even worse than Obama aka the worse president in our lifetime. Ok, tied with Jimmy Carter.
A vote for either Obama or Obama II (Willard FLOPNEY) guarantees liberal, planned parenthood endorsed judges which were far and away Gov Willard’s favorite judges to appoint in Massachusetts during his lone fours years.
A vote for Willard means monstrous (to use Perry’s fav word) business tax increases and government fees going through the ceiling. And Mr. 47th out of 50 states in jobs growth as governor. He would have been WORSE but Katrina hurt the gulf states in job creation obviously.
Yeah, who needs jobs? Romney made a career in sending them to China. Go Bain Capitol! Woo hoo!
And nominating Willard keeps our pathetic mushy moderate presidential losing streak alive - Ford, Bush Sr, Dole, McCain, Romney - ALL losers, therefore the candidates Dems love us to run against them.
Nah, there won't be one. Bammy will only consent to townhall meetings with pre-screened questioners - so he can get "close to the people," dontcha know.
The gripe, he had, was that he had to get off the back of the plane and he repeated that statement several time. You can look it up, many sources confirms the statement.
Not sure what you mean by the "negative approach".
A good candidate in a debate should bring up positive points about himself/herself and negative points about his/her opponent, and they should do it with an appropriate demeanor.
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with that?
Perhaps he should just say that he likes Mitt, be nice and not possibly hurt his feelings?
The McCain Strategy..and that work[ed] out great,too!
I take that back. MeCain was fired up and fight’n mad until it came to taking on Obama.
Then he suddenly turned all soft and squishy and couldn’t say enough good things about Obama.
Of Perry, Gingrich and Santorum, I believe that Newt has the best chance (by far) to defeat Romney nationally. Conservatives should seek to unite around the non-Romney who can beat Romney and then 0. That requires a fighter and a leader who can motive the electorate. In this group, Newt is the best combination of those two qualities.
I'm not in Iowa and haven't seen any of the ads Romney and Paul ran against Newt. So, other than a thread here about whether Newt paid a $300,000 fine, penalty, or investigative costs to the House Ethics Committee back in the '90s, I don't know what the smears were.
But if there was also a lot of truth in those negative ads, things could be very tricky for Newt. We'll just have to see what happens tonight and tomorrow night, and then the aftermath, if any.
You offer no evidence to support your claim.
Again, from your very own link...
That is the direct quote from Newt. Based on that direct quote, I think it should be clear to all who are trying to be objective, that Newt wanted to talk to Clinton about the budget. Clinton instead was hiding in the front of the plane. Newt, complained that by being in the back of the plane, that he didn't have access to the president to talk about the budget.
I had actually forgotten all about that one. Thanks for the link.
Another dupe.
I mean all the negative ads run in Iowa by Romney and Paul affiliated groups which Newt says caused the loss of half of his previous support. That's what Newt has been so displeased about for the past several days.
Are you aware of unaware of Newt's dissatisfaction with that?
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