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From an article titled: “Search The Web, Monday, December26, 2011
Virginia GOP Changed Rules For Primary In November 2011?” by Suscan Duclos -
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The Code of Virginia states:

“Any candidate who submits at least 15,000 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions statewide and has at least 600 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions from each of the 11 Congressional Districts shall be deemed to have met the threshold for qualification and will be certified (provided, of course, that other requirements of State law have also been met)”

“If any candidate submits fewer than 15,000 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions statewide or fewer than 600 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions in one or more of the 11 Congressional Districts, the Republican Party of Virginia will individually verify signatures until the 10,000 signature statewide threshold and/or 400 per Congressional district is met.”

Because Perry and Gingrich only submitted 11,000 plus signatures they had to be individually verified, yet Paul and Romney’s signatures went through NO verification process whatsoever because they submitted over 15,000.”

According the article - The Gingrich and Perry Campaigns submitted fewer than the required 15,000 thus required verification.

So why does Perry get special consideration??? Seems pretty clear that they didn’t do due-diligence!


55 posted on 12/27/2011 4:59:50 PM PST by fremont_steve
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To: fremont_steve

You are actually asserting that the CODE OF VIRGINIA establishes the primary rules for the Republican Party? That fails the laugh test.

I am quite certain that these are simply Republican Party rules with NO force of law, that can be enforced, changed, amended, or waived at will.


76 posted on 12/27/2011 5:19:15 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: fremont_steve

“...The Code of Virginia states:
Any candidate who submits at least 15,000 signatures
blah blah blah shall be deemed to have met the threshold...”
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You are spreading untruth.
That is NOT what Virginia code says.


118 posted on 12/27/2011 6:01:15 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: fremont_steve

Except that code, when looked at in whole, applies to local and state offices, not national offices.

At least, according to RedState...


121 posted on 12/27/2011 6:03:02 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: fremont_steve; John Valentine

freemont steve, the information quoted from that site is NOT from the Code of Virginia. The Code of Virginia requires 10K/400, not 15K/600, signatures of registered VA voters.

JV, the Code of VA most definitely does set the requirements to get on the primary ballot. It’s not a party rule that can be changed at will.

The 15K/600 number is what the RPV determined was an adequate number to be safe from elimination below the mandatory 10K, thus they bypassed the review of those petitions containing more than 15K signatures.

THIS is from the Code of VA and can be verified at:
http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?000+cod+24.2-545

§ 24.2-545. Presidential primary.
...
B. Any person seeking the nomination of the national political party for the office of President of the United States, or any group organized in this Commonwealth on behalf of, and with the consent of such person, may file with the State Board petitions signed by at least 10,000 qualified voters, including at least 400 qualified voters from each congressional district in the Commonwealth, who attest that they intend to participate in the primary of the same political party as the candidate for whom the petitions are filed. Such petitions shall be filed with the State Board by the primary filing deadline. The petitions shall be on a form prescribed by the State Board and shall be sealed in one or more containers to which is attached a written statement giving the name of the presidential candidate and the number of signatures on the petitions contained in the containers. Such person or group shall also attach a list of the names of persons who would be elected delegates and alternate delegates to the political party’s national convention if the person wins the primary and the party has determined that its delegates will be selected pursuant to the primary. The slate of delegates and alternates shall comply with the rules of the national and state party.
...
http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?000+cod+24.2-545


164 posted on 12/27/2011 7:26:46 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: fremont_steve; muawiyah
The Code of Virginia states:

“Any candidate who submits at least 15,000 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions statewide and has at least 600 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions from each of the 11 Congressional Districts shall be deemed to have met the threshold for qualification and will be certified..."

Would you care to point me to exactly which paragraph number in "Virginia code" states that which you quoted above?


I will give you a hint and a help with links to the official TWO paragraphs in Virginia code that might apply...

First is the VA code for the procedure of collecting petitions for any STATE office... § 24.2-506

Next is the VA code for the procedure of collecting petitions for any Presidential Primary... § 24.2-545

Can you find "15,000" or "deemed" anywhere in those? Or anywhere else in Virginia code that has been passed by the legislature and signed into law by the Governor?

While you are at it, tell me which of the two "VA codes" I provided, requires a resident address? (State office? or Presidential Primary?)
... which one has no requirement what so ever for the voter's address?

... and which of those two "VA codes" requires a petition's witness to be "qualified to register to vote, for the office for which he is circulating the petition"? (State office? or Presidential Primary?)
... which one has no requirement what so ever for the petition's witness?


You COULD find that exact text you quoted however in this un-dated "safe harbor" prose, that we now know was invented by "Dave Rexrode" at 10am on December 21st --- one day after Bolling turned in 16,021 signatures for Romney.
http://www.rpv.org/sites/default/files/2012%20Petition%20Certification%20Process_1.pdf

The conspirators in the RPV office created that letter, because they were fearful that Romney might get booted by the same anal microscopic verification which they were planning in the next 36 hours for Gingrich & Perry petitions.

Some have suggested that David Rexrode, Pat Mullings, and Bill Bolling should go to prison for this. Or at very least banned from politics, tarred and feathered, and run out of Virginia on a rail.


176 posted on 12/27/2011 8:07:07 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: fremont_steve

It’s not the “code of virginia” that stated that. The code of virginia requires 10,000 signatures, with 400 from each district.

The RPV is responsible for verifying the signatures, and their implementation for te verification process was that if a candidate submitted 15,000 signatures, with 600 from each district, the RPV would assume the candidate had 10,000 valid signatures. It was a time-saving measure based on the belief that 50% was a big enough cushion.

15,000 was the minimum recommendation from the VBE, which is probably where the RPV got the number.

But there are no election rules regarding “15,000 signatures”. It was just how RPV decided to verify. They could have just as easily said they’d check the first 1000 signatures for each candidate, and use the fail rate to determine what the expected total was — if a candidate was on track, they’d accept the petitions, if not, they’d have to keep counting to see if there were enough signatures.


200 posted on 12/28/2011 1:56:57 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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