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To: RummyChick
I still don’t have a definitive answer as to whether the expert on byssus said this veil was made of byssus or cambria.

What exactly did she say?

In regards to the transparent paintings...are you sure that Raphael sent a transparent painting?

I do not know what she really said. It does not matter.

I AM certain that Raphael sent a transparent self-portrait to Albrecht Dürer in 1508 because I have read the English translation of the letter exchanged between the two men discussing their techniques and the exchange of paintings. Raphael discusses using both cambric and Byssus cloth in his attempts but does not say which cloth the painting he sent to Dürer is done on.

However, for this to be Jesus has other problems. The photomicrographs taken of the Manoppello veil clearly show that the image is made of PIGMENTS! It has distinct pigments clinging to the fibers wherever there is image. Ergo, it is not miraculously created by Jesus pressing his face to a veil on the Via Delarosa. Secondly, the wounds on Jesus face, incurred before making the trek to Golgotha, are entirely missing, as are the blood stains from the crown of thorns. Finally, image on the Manoppello veil sports a young man's wispy beard and no mustache. The man on the Shroud, has a full beard and a full mustache. There is no comparison. Dr. Alan Whanger applied his comparison system on exact life size images of the Manoppello veil and Shroud images, and found only seven points of congruence... The same you'd find on a photo of any male or female face. But when he did the same with an equalized sized self-portrait of Rapf Hazel, there were over sixty points of congruence. Not enough for certainty, but enough to exclude the man on the shroud as being the same face!

If the material is cambric, it does indeed change the dynamic because cambric is a cloth that was only developed in the fifteenth century and certainly was not available to have been present on the Via Delarosa.

48 posted on 12/25/2011 1:47:26 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

Damn auto correction. Rapf hazel is Raphael.


49 posted on 12/25/2011 1:58:22 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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