Posted on 12/15/2011 6:38:51 AM PST by Zakeet
Full Headline: Dept. of Labor: Public School Teachers Are Highest Paid State Workers; Compensation Doubles the Average in Private Industry
Public school teachers receive greater average hourly compensation in wages and benefits than any other group of state and local government workers and receive more than twice as much in average hourly wages and benefits as workers in private industry, according to a new report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Public primary, secondary and special education teachers are paid an average of $56.59 per hour in combined wages and benefits, BLS said in the report released last week.
That is slightly more than twice the $28.24 in average hourly wages and benefits paid to workers in private industry.
In fact, according the BLS, the $28.24 in average hourly wages and benefits that private-industry workers now earn in the United States is less than the overall national average for hourly wages and benefits of $30.11.
That is because the overall national average compensation is dragged upwards from the private-industry average by the much higher wages and benefits paid to state and local government workers—who take in an average of $40.76 per hour, according to BLS.
The BLS report only calculated and published the average hourly wages and benefits for workers in nonfarm private industry and state and local governments. It did not include federal government workers.
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There is a GREAT dissimilarity between the pay that UNION TEACHERS receive (I.E. Northern/Blue states) and NON-UNION TEACHERS receive.
Non-union is pretty much on scale with the private sector. I, in fact, was dropped $500 in pay and have not received my scheduled pay increase for 3 years due to state cuts. I love my job so I don’t think too much about it.
Union teachers make a truck load of money and they are thoroughly protected after their third year.
You should see what they make in Oregon.
The guy across the street from me (when I lived there) made almost as much as me, lived in a bigger house, and gets a pension of 70k/year.
The guy was a gym teacher.
I’ve been 22 years at Intel and didn’t get the benefits he did.
This study added in benefits and compared hourly numbers.
Add in the pension and retirement health benefits, current benefits, and divide by the hours worked over their careers, and teachers are paid better than nearly any professional. Teachers would like to paid like the most successful neurosurgeons at the **peak** of their relatively **short** careers. Unlike professionals who require many more years of schooling and many more years to build their practices, teachers have the opportunity to work 30 or 40 or more years.
Also...teaching is not an academically competitive career. Low SAT scores, community college followed by a local state university with **minimally** demanding courses and no science and math courses ( or grossly diluted courses) is all that is needed. And...Sadly, too many masters degrees in education are a joke.
It is possible to qualify for a teaching position with minimal student loan debt, while in their early 20s. My local dentist, however, started his career with a quarter of million in school debt and another $400,000 to buy the practice. ( Really!) How many teachers are willing to take on **that** financial risk in this economy?
The truth is that if government schools were to close tomorrow, most teachers ( yes, “most”!) would barely be qualified to be a shift manager of the local carry out. They would struggle over fractions, decimals, and percentages.
I am sure that there are socialist school teachers who work very hard, and are very dedicated to helping the children in their socialist school's godless classroom, but the above is the truth. I am certain that some teachers are very very smart, too. I know a few myself, but since on **average** teachers have low SAT scores what does that say about the really dumb teachers who are averaging out those who are smart?
Oh....And someone is bound to get in a snit because I called government owned and run schools socialist and godless. Well?...If anyone knows of a government owned and run school that is not godless in their worldview and not a socialist and single payer entitlement, please send me a link.
How much are her bennies worth, and what does she contribute toward them?
Ah, there's the rub. How many private sector workers even have defined benefit retirement plans anymore? Here where I live (People's Republic of Illinois) I run into a LOT of retired teachers still in their 50s.
Reason I ask is because we have a 101 year old, God bless her, retired teacher in the family. And she’s been drawing a pension and health bennies for over 30 years. My guess is that those retirement bennies have cost far more than her lifetime salary.
I too am a resident of the PRoI and I’m sick of the whining from these public sector leeches. If you’re not satisfied with the pay package quit and do something else.
What you said. I know there are a lot of fine people in the system, but the system is inherently rotten and Marxist to the core(Anyone remember the school kids somewhere singing a praise song to Barak Hussein Obama, mmm mmm mmm).
Let's examine this above statement.
Socialist school teachers have the lowest SAT scores on campus. They have the lowest GRE scores, too. This is an average.
So...If this calculus teacher is brilliant, then somewhere out there in “The Land of Socialist Entitlement Schooling” is a really **DUMB** teacher, or several less than average teachers, who is leveling out this brilliant man's IQ, SAT, and GRE scores.
By the way, SAT, ACT, and GRE scores correlate well with basic IQ.
I know a good number of them, too. Very sweet, Very dedicated. A few very smart. All of them Democrats.
Lenin had a name for them: Useful Idiot.
Brilliant And also an extremely staunch conservative.
I am a former private school teacher and I can tell you that public school teachers (in Texas) make at least twice as much as private school teachers. With a master’s degree and 12 years teaching experience, I still didn’t make even close to what public school, first year teachers, no graduate degree made... None of our teachers did.
In California, fully one half of the budget, 50%, goes to Education. Yes, all of those teachers are paid for out of the California State Budget.
Government schools are godless in their worldview. Just to cooperate in the classroom and with assignments the child must think and reason godlessly. How can anyone who supports, upholds, and willingly establishes **that** be conservative or brilliant?
Godless government K-12 schools are a socialist, single payer, entitlement. Merely by attending children risk learning to be comfortable with their socialist, tuition-free, single payer, entitlement. Well?...If government can take money from a neighbor for tuition-free school, why not use that power to get **lots** of socialist goodies from their neighbor? So?...How can anyone who willingly supports, upholds, and establishes that lifelong lesson be conservative or brilliant?
Government socialist entitlement K-12 schools trash every First Amendment Right. Simply by attending children risk learning to be comfortable little prisoners of the state and compliant and obedient serfs to government overseers. How can **that** be conservative or brilliant?
You might argue that he sneaks in a little conservatism or Christian belief into his socialist classroom. If he is then he is teaching an important lesson: Conservatives and Christians are **SNEAKY**!
It is now plainly **evident** that government socialist entitlement schooling is leading our nation down into the hell of tyranny. I doubt that our nation will survive another generation of this indoctrination.
Personally, I will not have a K-12 socialist school teacher for a friend.
Would you have a K-12 Conservative school teacher as a friend?
No! If they haven't been fired yet, then they are Useful Idiots.
Unless they are willing to be promptly fired, they are **WILLINGLY** establishing, upholding, and supporting the following:
**teaching children to think and reason godlessly
**teaching children to be comfortable with taking their neighbor's money for socialist tuition-free schooling, ( Hey! Why not lots of “free” goodies?)
** teaching children to be comfortable with government trashing their First Amendment Rights
** teaching chidlren to be compliant and servile toadies to government functionaries.
If they attempting to sneak in a little Judeo Christian belief or conservatism, they are teaching the children that conservatives and God-fearing people are SNEAKY!
One more thing:
When sweet little Teacher Honey Bun ( who loves her cat) teaches in the government school, naive parents may wrongly believe that their child's socialist K-12 school can't be **that** bad. Hey! sweet, little Teacher Honey Bun works there.
One more generation of future voters indoctrinated in our nation's socialist and godless schools and this nation is **done**! The frog will be boiled. Stick a fork in it an offer it up with salt and butter that costs more than $400 a pound.
Okay.....noted.
Gee, teaching them Latin Hymns and the first 3 verses of "Silent Night" for the annual Christmas Chorus Concert is "godless?" WOW, I never knew.
**teaching children to be comfortable with taking their neighbor's money for socialist tuition-free schooling, ( Hey! Why not lots of “free” goodies?)
Teaching them that government can only acquire funding through taxation, and what that is, and explaining which taxes are "supposed" to go for certain things such as property taxes for education is teaching them about getting "free goodies?" I never knew.
There is much you and I have actually agreed on over the years, but one thing I will never agree with is the absolute broad brush you use in your crusade to have everyone conform to your way of thinking. Your extremism will be your downfall. You do more damage than good with it, just like all extremists.
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