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To: cripplecreek

Many of the supposed Tea Party people are delusional with Newt Gingrich’s debating skills. This is not American Idol. I don’t want a performer, I want someone who believes what they say and actually has the record to back it up, not somebody says something for political expidiency. There is NO difference between Newt and Romney, their both atrocious and the conservatives who actually stick to their principles understand this.

Newt’s amnesty comments were only the beginning. Next, he’ll be agreeing to “take the heat” for agreeing that climate change is occuring.


74 posted on 12/03/2011 5:19:19 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: parksstp

Pointing to Bachmann’s “record of failure” is a real bad idea as Tim Pawlenty quickly discovered. Her failures are a result of doing the right thing which is better than success through capitulation.


87 posted on 12/03/2011 5:29:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: parksstp

I agree with you there, also to note is being able to pull facts out of a hat doesn’t win you votes, it’s also about presentation. People forget elections like 1960 where Nixon, despite his knowledgeability, lost the election to Kennedy. Part of it was likely the long stay of Eisenhower, but Kennedy was also younger and spoke more charismatically. That’s perhaps Newt’s biggest flaw in speaking, he speaks in lectures. Problem with paying attention to these is often the fact that your audience wants more charisma than they want known facts, Romney has the same flaw, he speaks in businesstalk, that loads of the electorate would lose their attention to in not much time.

As for Gingrich and Romney, they’re two sides of the same coin, they claim conservativism, but they are for climate change, both for nationalized healthcare but B.S. their way into arguing that they have differences from Obama’s plan, and both are fickle enough that if Greek dieties were real, we would hear them laughing their heads off about it. He already sat on the couch with Pelosi on Climate Change, whether or not he believes it is another story, I can’t know

As for me, it appears we have a long stinkin’ fight with the president in White House after this election, and it totally doesn’t matter if this is an R or a D after the president’s name, we’re going to have to be willing to possibly even vote a one-term for a GOP candidate, just because we can’t count on party candidates to fulfill the principles. We just can’t sit back and spontaneously trust them, that’s how it is.


159 posted on 12/03/2011 10:13:25 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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