Posted on 11/30/2011 7:48:10 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
See posts 124, 145, 149, 154, and 157.
I was never on he Cain train, so the “how long will it take you to abandon the next flavor-of-the-week” comment is a nonsequator.
I TOTALLY agree with you that the Obama media will viciously go after the eventual nominee. It ain’t fair, but if our nominee is going to have any chance to save us from the worst president ever, they’ll need to have the ability to effectively deal with the eventual media onslaught (Regan did this with grace & humor, remember his “there you go again” comment).
Cold hard fact is that none of the recent flavors of the month (Perry, Cain and Bachman) have this capacity at the level they would need to unseat Obama. It’s ironc that the MSM is doing us a favor in testing our pool of candidates to see who is good under fire.
If there is a brokered convention, it means that the GOP elite have lost control of the situation, and therefore of the outcome.
Lawyer speak for sure, but approved by the Candidate.
Cain picked this man to represent him. Who would he pick for Attorney General?
These are the proving grounds of a President, these primary fights. They make or break them. It is where their metal is proved. A President will be attacked all over the world. How he reacts affects every citizen. Obama showed himself to be a self centered shallow twit, when he stamped his foot about people teasing him about his ears. If Cain can not handle this properly, then he doesn’t need to be President.
I would also like to see the content of the texts. Wonder why she doesn’t release them, and didn’t from the very start?
But, Cain also knows what he said in them. Why doesn’t HE release his texts, which she sent him? It is hinky on both sides. That combined with the statement by the lawyer, and Cain looks bad.
I am very upset about it. I have been getting calls all day, from those who I have talked to about Cain. Some to gloat, some to commiserate. It is a sad day for America, in my opinion. A sad day.
A brokered convention would be excellent. Anything to get power away from the Inside the Beltway Ruling Class works for me. If we go w another Establishment type this time around, we’ll be screwed for the foreseeable future.
Republican convention is the week of August 27. Two months seems to be a real short amount of time to nominate someone new and get them running against Obama and win. Plus, while it’s happened in the past, I don’t think many people in the country would be real happy with a candidate that none of them got a chance to vote for. The idea of having more than a year of debates, elections, etc. just thrown out and someone new named as the candidate would probably rub a lot of people the wrong way.
Give me a break.
Most people already don't get to cast a meaningful vote for the nominee.
The caucus/primary system is completely controlled by aparatchiks. Obama proved that by having ACORN steal all the caucuses from Hillary.
The only way we would get to choose the nominee would be a series of runoffs until somebody got more than 50% of the vote, and that will never happen.
My state's primary is less than meaningless.
Your solution is to keep it in the hands of the apartchiks.
Yes, he picked his attorney and I understand what you’re saying there. I’ve seen a number of bad decisions/choices on his part. But I keep hearing that everyone wants a candidate who is not a politician. Apparently we don’t, because the minute his inexperience shows we gang up on him. But we see some of the same stupid goofs and gaffs from so-called experienced politicians, so what the heck?
Not everyone keeps their texts. But if he didn’t delete them, and they could exonerate him, then he should release them by all means. On the other hand, if he knows they’ll prove he did what she accuses, he should just say as much and drop out.
However, since she’s the one accusing, the normal thing would be that we should expect her to produce the proof - and if she’s unwilling to do that she should be treated with skepticism from everyone, but especially conservatives.
You are correct. The candidate is chosen by the time it gets to my state also. Ditto many if not most of the states. A minority of voters even participate in the primaries, and a smaller minority picks the candidate—via help from the Establishment Ruling Class, that allows Independents and in some cases Dems to vote in ***our*** primaries. I know of no conservative who is happy w the status quo. A brokered convention would be a godsend, and if they chose wisely, it could engender a tidal wave of enthusiasm.
"Yeah, I should just let someone accuse me of smearing a candidate and then repeatedly refuse to actually back that up. Hmm, where have I read people complaining about accusations without proof?"
LOL! That was the best point you made today! 'Course it is not about Cain...but, I still appreciate it very much.
Same thing we did when they shoved Bob Dull down our throats?
Same thing we did when they shoved George W. Bush down or throats?
I'm all for a brokered convention. If you aren't, I don't care, and nobody else does either.
You certainly make sense. She should have to show more “proof” of an affair. And I think if she had it, it would be all over the news.
And you are right, we say we don’t want a politician, but then it seems we critisize Cain when he doesn’t act like one!
Actually, I just want Cain to show his skills as a businessman. A successful businessman must do much of the same things a politician does. They are selling a product: Herman Cain, in this case.
Successful businessmen know how to pick great people to work for them, and how to “outsell” their competition. To be successful, they have to have the ability to promote their products better than their competitors, and instill confidence in their shareholders. Cain has not shown those skills in this situation.
You seem to believe you’re the spokesman for the universe, so I thought I’d just throw it back in your face, Skippy.
Care to point out where I said or implied that, sparky?
“Cain has not shown those skills in this situation.”
I do wish he had better advisers and spox folks, but he was running on a tight shoestring budget until very recently. However, the fact that he’s gotten this far going up against some who believe it’s their turn, their right, to be elected POTUS in 2012 says a lot for his skills.
And as far as not handling things with the slickness of a career pol - again, isn’t that what we want? Didn’t we do our best to vote out experienced pols and replace them with average Joe’s in 2010?
Whatever happens with all this, we need to keep something in mind —
This isn’t just about Herman Cain. The establishment know-it-alls and dems will stop at nothing to demoralize us and choose our candidate and I’m not playing their game. If Cain drops out for whatever reason, they’ll be all over the next one in line like white on rice, all the way down to the wire come November 2012. You know it’s true.
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