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To: 5thGenTexan

Yes fine. In the real world, you will be dating nobody.

This woman obviously wanted sex. A guy putting a condom on obviously means the guy doesn’t want kids, else he wouldn’t put it on in the first place.

What REASONABLE PERSON - which I suggest you are not - would EVER expect that a woman would do this knowing the guy didn’t want kids b/c of the condom being used? And then go behind his back and run to a sperm bank to save it?!?! To have a kid without telling him and then going after support?!?!

You’re as bad as a liberal justifying crazy womens’ behavior. Like the guy is the evil person here and the woman’s the entitled victim. Gimme a break.

The problem is you are confusing two issues here. One being the moral issue of sex outside of marriage. The other, the moral issue of what this woman did without this guys’ knowledge and had pre-planned to do to him, clearly going against his obvious intentions, without telling him. Talk about deceit and selfishness and just lack of disregard of him as a person and will of his to say yes or no. Forget that.


82 posted on 11/28/2011 11:57:33 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
What REASONABLE PERSON - which I suggest you are not - would EVER expect that a woman would do this knowing the guy didn’t want kids b/c of the condom being used? And then go behind his back and run to a sperm bank to save it?!?!

You’re as bad as a liberal justifying crazy womens’ behavior. Like the guy is the evil person here and the woman’s the entitled victim. Gimme a break.

I never said one should expect this behavior. You are putting words in my mouth.

To say I am unreasonable simply because I suggest that people should exhibit self restraint means you must adhere to the "everyone does it, we can't control ourselves" mentality that is closer to the liberal philosophy than my philosophy of self control and responsibility.

But, the intentional result she created is the same as if the condom broke. There is a reason they can't put 100% effective on the box. And I speak from experience; my first wife got pregnant while on birth control and we had an "unexpected blessing".

So, again, the only 100% way to prevent the situation of having a child with someone you did not want to is to abstain from sex with that person. Anything else, you are simply lowering the chances and giving yourself a false sense of security.

And the moral issue of sex outside of marriage is partially based on this very prospect - the chance of procreation and the commitment required for raising that child. Therefore, you should only be having sex with someone you have a committed, trust-based relationship with.

114 posted on 11/28/2011 9:43:18 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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