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To: Georgia Girl 2; tbw2; HereInTheHeartland; Hildy; svcw; mockingbyrd

I’m not contemplating a short sale! I probably should have mentioned that. LOL

Today some neighbors of ours are moving out, and when we were researching the possibility of selling our house, comps and the like, their home came up as a short sale. There was never even a For Sale sign out front.

They’re a semi-retired couple, and I had them pegged as, “the millionaires next door,” due to a lucrative family business they’ve owned. They bought their house before we bought ours 8 years ago, so there’s no way they could be underwater, unless they took out a massive 2nd mortgage on the house. The houses in our neighborhood are holding steady at the value they were 6-7 years ago.

It’s just weird and unsettling to suddenly see a moving van out front.


20 posted on 11/19/2011 9:05:03 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
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I should also say that I’m actually hoping there’s some sort of loophole or they did a short sale to one of their kids, or there was some type of strategy involved for their sake, because I hate to think of them being destitute at this point in their lives (70’s).


24 posted on 11/19/2011 9:08:50 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: ChocChipCookie

“Today some neighbors of ours are moving out, and when we were researching the possibility of selling our house, comps and the like, their home came up as a short sale. There was never even a For Sale sign out front.”

There are some people who take out a big loan on their homes and even though they could make the mortgage payments, they decide “it’s not worth it financially” — they do a short sale or even let the bank foreclose.

Same as you, I was researching house sales in my neighborhood and found that someone on my street originally bought the house for $x, then they refinanced and took out a lot of cash when prices were up, then kept the cash, and let the bank foreclose recently. Then they bought another house cheap and spent signifcant amount of money remodeling, so clearly they had no financial hardship.
The bank must have auctioned the foreclosed home, because there was no for sale sign on that house either.

Unethical, but legal.


33 posted on 11/19/2011 9:28:54 AM PST by UniqueViews
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To: ChocChipCookie

They could have been teetering on foreclosure and came up with a short sale at the last minute. Sometimes the lenders will accept that. Foreclosure is very costly for the lender. Could be that it was only a few thousand short of value or something.


35 posted on 11/19/2011 9:30:55 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ChocChipCookie
We had two neighbors short sale here in our neighborhood and one other involved in a suspicious fire here in Northern Glendale. We like our house a lot and the kids are happy, but the values are taking a beating with everyone bailing like they have. Come to think of it, I guess the values are doing pretty well considering all that...

We love Arizona and the people. It's like the biggest secret in the country how much better the quality of life is here compared to places like South Florida. I'm glad people can find happiness on the beach 24/7. Still, after 20+ years in SoFlo, I don't know that I'd ever move back being that this move was for family and career.

36 posted on 11/19/2011 9:36:39 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Good info.
Possibly things are not what they appear with the couple. Maybe the business is in bad shape; and they have liquidity issues that involve the home and the business.
38 posted on 11/19/2011 10:09:15 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: ChocChipCookie
due to a lucrative family business they’ve owned.

Self employed almost always have to sign personally on financing for business loans. Bank defaults on business loans can happen even if the business is sound due to loan requirements that require various covenants like minimum profits etc.

This means their personal residence is eventually subject to lien and levy if in technical default on business loan. Selling their residence could generate cash that would lower the business debt and get the bank off their back. During this recession, I personally experienced my credit sources have cut back on credit as well as required more payments. We are growing and need more working capital rather than less so a profitable business can find itself at risk of default when its business is growing too fast.

47 posted on 11/19/2011 11:40:01 AM PST by Raycpa
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