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To: decimon

I find it comical that so called educated people actually believe that an explosion resulted in the complex, precise mechanical workings of our solarsystem. It is very difficult to put satellites in orbit, yet we are expected to believe the moons and planets achieved their orbit accidentally. LOL.


25 posted on 11/11/2011 5:58:36 AM PST by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

Yeah, that is hilarious.


29 posted on 11/11/2011 6:24:27 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: jimmyray

If you truly believe the solar system operates on a precise mechanical basis you need to read and study it more. The solar system and the galaxies are much more like chaos than anything else. They just happen to be operating on a time and distance scale that makes it hard to personally experience on a human lifetime scale. Andromeda and the Milky Way galaxy are presently in the process of an uncontrolled collision, our sun is a billion years away from a hiccup that will likely destroy earth and about four billion years away from it’s red giant phase. The universe is anything but precisely mechanical.


30 posted on 11/11/2011 6:28:38 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: jimmyray; John Valentine; muir_redwoods
Orbit is a result of a very simple mechanical stabilization. The centripetal force of an object rotating around another object becomes equal to the gravitational force between them. This can go on indefinitely until something else interrupts the system. Someday, the current mechanical state of the solar system will be interrupted and life will cease to exist.

Nearly infinite quantities of massive objects of various masses traveling at various velocities will automatically form their own orbits. Most of the objects will collide or miss but some will interact just right and begin to orbit. When colliding, some objects will bounce, some will fuse, some will break apart into hundreds of smaller objects. After nearly infinite lengths of time, they will form semi-stable systems. Some will even implode to become nuclear fireballs. This nuclear energy adds another twist to the equation.

The satellite orbits you refer to are considered “difficult” because we place one single object in a single deliberate orbit. The system must be calculated exactly and we don’t have nearly infinite attempts at achieving the result. The universe does. The natural system you see around us can be the result of a one in octillion occurrence. We only see the one seemingly perfect result here on earth, not the 10^27 “failures” scattered throughout the near infinite universe.

The earth is an ideal mass/velocity (aka orbit) and has just the right composition for carbon-based life. The iron core rotates in such a way to create a magnetic shield from solar wind. As a result, nearly every square inch is covered with life. Every single life form on this planet uses the same basic mechanism – from bacteria to humans. This mechanism could have easily began with a single random occurrence after hundreds of millions of years of “failure”. Again, we only see this good, seemingly miraculous result because it DID happen here. On a nearly infinite number of planets, it did not happen because the combination is so unlikely. Nobody is there to discuss it.

It is difficult to believe this could all be random because all of human history and every single thing man has ever done is nothing compared to the scale of the universe. It is barely one water atom in the universe’s ocean. Even the Earth’s history is barely comprehensible. Octillions of invisible chemical reactions over hundreds of millions of years are incomprehensible to humans.

Will proof that our creation is completely random cheapen life or make humans less special? NO It would mean we are the self-realization, or “brain”, of the universe. I find that far more incredible and special than if we did prove an intelligent, deliberate creator.

39 posted on 11/11/2011 1:01:56 PM PST by varyouga
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