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‘Pakistan schools teach Hindu hatred’
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Posted on 11/09/2011 9:47:15 AM PST by MBT ARJUN

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To: TBP

Since you have written extensively for the last 20 years on south asian issues, please post a few links to your writing. We would love to read what you have to say. This since all your posts having anything to do with India or Hindus is pure venom.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 6:49:09 AM PST by mandrake
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To: TBP

Well TBP, I *am* from India and I *am* a Christian. You “may have written about S Asia issues for 20 years”; I have lived there for 30 years.
Yes, there have been incidents against minorities in India. However these incidents cannot hold a candle to what happening in Pakistan. And you can stop the bullshit about Hindus being taught minority-hatred. Here’s some news for you, the minority haters themselves are in a minority!. I wonder how in the “20 years of your experience” you could have missed that.


22 posted on 11/12/2011 8:44:15 PM PST by coldphoenix
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To: coldphoenix

That’s nothing but the party line, and it’s not accurate.


23 posted on 11/12/2011 9:03:09 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

What party line? What are you talking about? I didn’t say there are no incidents in India. Orissa, Mangalore etc have had incidents. What I am saying is its nowhere near as that of Pakistan, as you claim.


24 posted on 11/12/2011 9:28:57 PM PST by coldphoenix
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To: MBT ARJUN; ravager; MimirsWell
Islam delivers a message of peace and brotherhood, concepts portrayed as alien to the Hindu.”

The problem is that modern Pakis can watch indian movies and can watch the news and see how India is progressing while Pakiland is regressing. I wonde why they don't think what they've been taught is a lie...

25 posted on 11/14/2011 1:01:20 AM PST by Cronos
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To: MBT ARJUN; ravager; MimirsWell
”The anti-Islamic forces are always trying to finish the Islamic domination of the world,

We should finish it off. Nuke Mecca and Medina

26 posted on 11/14/2011 1:02:28 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: coldphoenix; ravager; MimirsWell; sukhoi-30mki; MBT ARJUN
coldphoenix: Well TBP, I *am* from India and I *am* a Christian. You “may have written about S Asia issues for 20 years”; I have lived there for 30 years.

Guys - a shill for the failed Khalistani movement remains a shill even after that movement is dead. the Indian Christians I know talk of the stray incidents that have occured but there is no government persecution, no cross-national persecution and definitely most Hindus themselves condemn atrocities against Christians

Christians are pretty well integrated in India, pretty acculturised and part of the landscape -- they no longer stick out.

moslems on the other hand are getting increasingly Saudised -- thanks to Saudi money. They're not as bad as Pakis who now state that they are actually Arabs (ha, ha ha!), but getting that way.

"Hindus" in general will never trust "Moslems" in general because of the centuries of history and warfare. But even the hardline RSS Hindus I met never preached violence against Christians -- they have their own agenda and assimilation yes, but they realised that preaching violence against Christians doesn't get them far politically or socially -- violence against Moslems on the other hand....

27 posted on 11/14/2011 1:08:19 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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TBP’s 20 years of experience is really worth nothing since he has never actually been to India. Just imagine someone extensively writing negative stuff (lets say Michael Moore and Naom Chompski style) but never actually set foot on US soil to do any of his research. You cant just sit inside your basement, write venomous trip and think you know everything you need to know about a country without ever visiting the place..... but that TBP’s research. Every crack pot propagandist has 20 years of research experience like that.
28 posted on 11/14/2011 7:03:44 AM PST by ravager
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To: coldphoenix; Cronos; TBP
@ coldphoenix

To TBP it totally doesn't matter if you are Christian. If you are not toeing the line he has been paid to toe by his pay masters then even your first hand experience is worthless compared to his “20 years” basement research.

29 posted on 11/14/2011 7:14:46 AM PST by ravager
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To: TBP

Pinging you to post #28


30 posted on 11/14/2011 7:15:19 AM PST by ravager
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To: Cronos; TBP

The most vocal proponents of the Khalistan movement are no longer in Punjab. The Sikhs in Punjab have moved on and are actually quite content with the way things are. A handful of Sikhs diaspora living in Vancouver or Southall,London are the most vocal Khalistan ideologues. The have severed ties with India and have no hopes of ever seeing Punjab again in their lifetime. And they haven’t quite been able to assimilate in UK or Canada. They are living in a time warp and refuse to face the reality that Sikhs of Punjab don’t support the idea of Khalistan. Every now and then some obscure Canadian or British politician making noises about Khalistan gets the whole community upbeat and rejuvenates the movement. The fact that they are still latching on to straws is a projection of their own issues. and bad choices made by them.


31 posted on 11/14/2011 8:10:23 AM PST by ravager
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To: Cronos
The RSS is just like the English Defense League. Their main target are the Muslims. In todays world if you publicly take a stand against Islam you are instantly attacked by the media from all direction and you get branded as fascist,neo nazi, hatemonger without even the opportunity of a civilized debate. And before you know it you end up with a reputation for being a fascist/terrorist group. Soon all the paranoid/insecure minorities of all hues also turn their ire on you. Its the same story with RSS and EDL. And the leadership of these organizations aren't anywhere near as suave or media savy as the Muslims playing “moderates”, pimping for ACLU or CAIR type organization and playing the victim card. In the US its gitmo and Iraq and in India it is Godra riots.
32 posted on 11/14/2011 8:34:27 AM PST by ravager
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The Sikhs in Punjab have moved on and are actually quite content with the way things are.

Not true, as you know. Leaders like Simranjit Singh Mann, the Dal Khalsa folks, former Member of Parliament Atinder Pal Singh, and others continue to hold pro-Khalistan events that are very well attended. Somehow, the Indian government feels the need to arrest and prosecute oeple simply for making speeches, marching, and raising the Khalsitani flag.

Add in the Sikh diaspora and its advocates for Sikh freedom and you have a strong political force.

India is unsustainable. Like countries from Austria-Hungary to the Soviet Union, it cannot hold together because it is not one country. The massive force that it is having to use on Christians, Sikhs, Dalits, and so many others shows you how unstable it is.

33 posted on 11/14/2011 7:53:36 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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The Sikhs in Punjab have moved on and are actually quite content with the way things are.

Not true, as you know. Leaders like Simranjit Singh Mann, the Dal Khalsa folks, former Member of Parliament Atinder Pal Singh, and others continue to hold pro-Khalistan events that are very well attended. Somehow, the Indian government feels the need to arrest and prosecute peopleoeple simply for making speeches, marching, and raising the Khalsitani flag.

Add in the Sikh diaspora and its advocates for Sikh freedom and you have a strong political force.

India is unsustainable. Like countries from Austria-Hungary to the Soviet Union, it cannot hold together because it is not one country. The massive force that it is having to use on Christians, Sikhs, Dalits, and so many others shows you how unstable it is.

34 posted on 11/14/2011 7:55:24 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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"India is unsustainable"

I had a good laugh at that. That line alone tells me you have no idea about the country. There have been people saying that about India ever since we got Independence and you know what? Its just a wet dream. You have absolutely no clue about how Indians think because you are not one so don't presume to know.

"The massive force that it is having to use on Christians, Sikhs, Dalits, and so many others shows you how unstable it is. "

What are you high on? Seriously. It must be some good stuff.

"The Massive force"?

lol yea that why we have a Sikh Prime Minister. In fact he's the man who reformed our economy back in the 90's

35 posted on 11/14/2011 9:12:31 PM PST by coldphoenix
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