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Posted on 11/06/2011 10:03:09 PM PST by Kevmo
Media eCat Story Evolves
admin on November 6, 2011 — 27 Comments
The number of media organisations dipping toes into the eCat story continues to grow. From Fox to MSNBC and the UK’s Daily Mail to Wired UK, Forbes and more.
Wired was there before most and now they’ve updated their view, mirroring many of the questions informed skeptics have been asking for some time.
Reserving judgement, they nevertheless note that much of the coverage appears to be softening and wonder if AP is holding back for the bigger story to come. They note the dearth of substantial coverage in the mainstream but voice that and their views on Rossi in positive tones.
A shift is on the horizon. It would not take much for that shift to become a slide – a solid link identifying a credible customer or a qualified and independent observer breaking cover. There is a profusion of potential breakpoints and it is only a matter of time before something breaks. One thing seems likely – as journalists begin to see through the superficial certainty of those screaming Fraud, they are probably the canaries signaling a hidden change among potential investors, genuinely open scientists and cautious sceptics who recognise that there is more to this tale than the artificial noise suggests.
We all know that we do not have the proof required but the complex contortions required to construct a cohesive narrative that does not involve the possibility that Rossi is telling the truth are becoming as incredulous as that simple possibility. An interested person new to the subject and curious enough to peek through the preconception of junk science might be fooled by the contention stirred by a handful of commenters but more are sneaking through and thinking for themselves. Despite the lie that sites such as eCatNews.com are dominated by believers, the ranks of those taking a hopeful stance while waiting for real proof is growing.
The true voice of reason is becoming stronger.
Just use "Johnny B."'s link upthread. That's where I got the quote. This is a USARMY report, not one issued by Rossi. There is another report as well (from DOD, I think) that says pretty much the same thing.
Only in your dreams. It has always been made clear that though there were U. of B. professors involved with the testing, that it was NOT done as an official U. of B. project. THAT awaits funding from Rossi.
I'm not wading through link after link and then it's possible I don't have the link you're refereeing to. If you can't produce a link to back up your assertions, no big deal, I don't believe in the E-cat anyways but if you do believe and you want others to believe, it would behoove you to supply the link so we know it's the correct one.
Then we can get down to analyzing it. For all we know it could be a deceptively written article to make it look like the military is interested in it.
The contest for worse written sentence is that away>>>>>>>
Reply #20, last link in the reply. It takes you directly to the report.
"....but if you do believe and you want others to believe, it would behoove you to supply the link so we know it's the correct one."
Why....it's better if you get to it through "Johnny B.'s" link than one I post. After all, I "might" work for the Mafia, or the CIA, or some ridiculous speculation. But "Johnny B" is the very soul of veracity.
Only in your dreams. It has always been made clear that though there were U. of B. professors involved with the testing, that it was NOT done as an official U. of B. project.The University of Bologa said in their Press Release that "none of the experiments made with E-Cat (including that of 28th October 2011) has been carried out at the University of Bologna or by any of its scientists".
According to Kevmo in this post here on F.R., on September 9th, Rossi answered the question "Have fully working E-Cats been provided to the Bologna and Uppsala Universities for research and testing?" in the affirmative.
Either Rossi is lying or the University of Bologna is lying or Kevmo made up quote from Rossi's blog (that pretends to be a scientific journal).
Personally, I'm much more inclined to believe the University of Bologna over either Rossi or Kevmo.
After all, I "might" work for the Mafia, or the CIA, or some ridiculous speculation.You're right, that is ridiculous speculation.
About as ridiculous as the common speculation by the Rossi fans that it was a conspiracy between the Italian government and the Mafia that caused poor, innocent Rossi to be convicted of fraud and sent to prison after he was caught dumping toxic waste while claiming to be converting garbage to fuel with his Petrodragon company.
What, are you ten years old, did you even post a link?
You know exactly what I meant.
I'm sorry, do you need a tissue? You know exactly what I meant, there were a couple of links and I wanted to be sure I was on the one you were talking about. The fact that it's in a Johnny B post is immaterial and you know it. Quick playing the hurt victim; save it for when the E-Cat is proved to be a fraud.
You do know the number of your local suicide hotline??
LOL. You can go to the U. of B's official website, and look up Dr. Levi's page. The photo of the person at that page looks "remarkably" like the gentleman who appears in the videos of the demos of the E-Cat.
I suspect the same can be done for all the other U. of B. connected witnesses.
Shill for him all you want, will you be able to sleep at night if someone who is retired puts all their savings in the ecat and Rossi disappears, you can live with that?
No. I told you precisely where on the thread to find the correct link. If you're too damned lazy to scroll upthread and click on the link I described, or too stupid to follow simple directions, then **** off.
"The fact that it's in a Johnny B post is immaterial and you know it.
I assumed that finding the information contradicting his comment AT THE LINK HE HIMSELF POSTED would have more veracity than one that I provided.
So can the false outrage.
YEEESSS, it is. Because it is the TE project that Johnny is calling a fraud. As evidence that everything Rossi ever did was fraudulent.
"Funny how the TE factory burned down and no one had been able to recreate the effect, hmmm.
Funny thing the original prototype worked, as described, in independent tests, done by independent personnel, at an indpendent site.
"Shill for him all you want, will you be able to sleep at night if someone who is retired puts all their savings in the ecat and Rossi disappears, you can live with that?
LOL....WHERE have I heard that before?? Oh yes, I remember, it was from one of the other seagulls, saying why they were spamming E-Cat threads do shut down discussion.
Yet it hasn't been recreated has it? Maybe the test wasn't as independent as has been stated. Maybe Rossi or his conspirators futzed with the test. Colleges aren't exactly military facilities.
So, why has Rossi been able to recreate it??? You have no problem with the factory burning down and taking the working devices with it?
There were five links where you pointed. I think it's time for your nap, you keep using those grown up swear words so no dinner for you and wipe those tears off you face, someday you'll understand why the grownups do the things they do.
Kevmo is already on record as having said Cold Fusion has been proven and available: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2802859/posts?page=4#4
YEEESSS, it is. Because it is the TE project that Johnny is calling a fraud. As evidence that everything Rossi ever did was fraudulent.No, the evidence of Rossi's many fraudulent activities are quite clearly shown in the several convictions and jail terms Rossi has received for them.
The TE project is one of the few times Rossi didn't end up convicted of a crime, so I guess that makes it a successful scam.
We're waiting to see whether the E-Cat is another.
with five convictions for 'tinkering' ...
I said that I loved the discussions and didn't want to shut them down. It's like going to the carival and watching the suckers throw their money away.
All of the Geiger counters I have used measure particulate radiation only. Are there counters which measure gamma radiation? I'm curious about their mechanism of action.
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