Posted on 11/05/2011 12:58:45 AM PDT by Kevmo
Andrea Rossi says his new machine fuses nickel and hydrogen at room temperature creating almost unlimited energy .
But there is one problem - many scientists claim it defies the very laws of physics. Several high-profile demonstrations of 'cold fusion' have been proven to be hoaxes in the past - and no one can adequately explain how or why it might work .
The United States Department of Energy the U.S. Patent Office say the process is impossible because physics rules out the possibility of room-temperature nuclear fusion .
But Rossi's E-Cat machine can allegedly do it, and he says he proved it worked during tests at the University of Bologna last month .
Key: Rossi says he has produced a pattern of triple track atoms, pictured, which is at the heart of the cold fusion theory
'We have nothing to say, just to make plans that work properly and let those facts win against the scepticism.'
Sterling Allan, CEO of the alternative energy news agency Pure Energy Systems, told FoxNews.com he attended Rossi’s demonstration and the E-Cat is self sustaining .
'What Rossi demonstrated was 470 kilowatts of continuous output in self-sustain mode -- meaning the output was enough to keep the thing running on its own,' he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
I no likee your posts. I give up on you long time, toto. You no have value in post of information. Onry good for troubre. You get rost, worthress seagurr.
You are not going to make it up many hills with zero psig steam
The Pons-Fleischmann excess heat effect has been replicated more than 14,700 times.
Jing-tang He
• Nuclear fusion inside condense matters
• Frontiers of Physics in China
Volume 2, Number 1, 96-102, DOI: 10.1007/s11467-007-0005-8
This article describes in detail the nuclear fusion inside condense matters—the Fleischmann-Pons effect, the reproducibility of cold fusions, self-consistency of cold fusions and the possible applications
http://www.boliven.com/publication/10.1007~s11467-007-0005-8?q=(%22David%20J.%20Nagel%22)
Scientific American
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-scientists-sin
1. Jed Rothwell
11:52 AM 6/20/10
Shermer says that Goodstein concluded that cold fusion was most likely a case of scientists who “convince themselves that they are in the possession of knowledge that does not in fact exist.”
Cold fusion has been replicated in over 180 major laboratories, by roughly 1,500 professional scientists. These replications have been published in roughly 800 papers in mainstream, peer reviewed journals such as J. Electroanal. Chem. and Japanese J. of Applied Physcis. J. He of the Institute of High Energy Physics, Chinese Academy of Sciences estimates that the effect has been observed in roughly 14,000 experimental runs (Front. Phys. China (2007) 1: 96 102).
Many of the results were at low signal to noise ratio, but others were high, such as heat from 10 to 100 W, and tritium at 50 times background (Los Alamos, Texas A&M) up to several million times (BARC).
Most of the researchers who have reported positive results are senior, distinguished experts, such as the Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, government of India, and the experts at Los Alamos in charge of the Tritium Systems Test Assembly and the Tokamak Fusion Test Reactor at Princton. Only senior researchers can get funding because of academic politics.
When a result has been widely replicated at high signal to noise ratios and reported in the literature, that result is real, by definition. There is no other standard of reality in science. If it were possible for hundreds of scientists in hundreds of laboratories to be wrong, the experimental method would not work, and no result would be meaningful, and science itself would not work. If Shermer and Goodstein would substitute some other standard of truth, and ignore replication and peer-review, they are engaged in some form of faith-based religion or a popularity contest, not science.
This is a scam and Kevmo has INTRADE.com and probably other personal interests.
***Intrade didn’t post the contract this time around. No one on FR would come to terms for betting for or agae inst Rossi. I have not found any way to put my money where my mouth is this time around.
It is news to post about legitimate news articles.
***These are legitimate news articles about a development which, if true, completely changes the socioeconomic landscape of the whole world. That qualifies as a legitimate news discussion, sparky.
He posts 1-4 blogs posts and other non-news items every single day. That is spamming, not reporting.
***At any point in time, try to find any other news item which will have as much impact as this, if it were true. Your whining has the distinct tone of someone with a censorship agenda.
Commercial success talks.
***And Rossi is the first LENR researcher to sell a functioning unit to a customer, as far as I can tell. He says he’s got 2 more lined up, and the best evidence shows that he’s well on his way.
All the other naysayers will soon be taking walks.
Geez, you can’t get any details right whatsoever, which is why I gave up on you a few threads ago.
I suppose we’ll see soon enough, one way or the other.
It’s easy to prove Rossi’s device is a scam — just buy one. Can’t afford it? Get all your naysayer buddies together on a shared pool just so you can prove it to yourselves.
I gave up on you several threads ago. You keep proving why that was wise.
It is easy to prove it is a scam, just FOIA those custom declarations for Leonardo corporation
I gave up on you several threads ago.
Then do it. Do all of us freepers a favor. Be a big hero.
Oh, 'this time around'. Thanks for admitting you are still trying to find out how to make money on this scam.
Why would I pay good money for junk? Better that you should buy it and sell the power from it and make lots of money. Now, why wouldn't you do that? Because deep in your heart you know it doesn't work.
Is there some reason why you think I would respond to your posts? I’ve told you over and over again that I’m done with you.
“Many of the results were at low signal to noise ratio, but others were high, such as heat from 10 to 100 W, and tritium at 50 times background (Los Alamos, Texas A&M) up to several million times (BARC).”
You do realize that while statistically these are significant results, These still fall far outside the realm of what we would be looking for in a commercial product.
If Rossi’s ecat were real, it would be a leap of many thousand fold (if not millions) increase over the best result that anyone had ever got.
All the more reason to raise your eyebrows at Rossi’s claims and evaluate his background. Once you do, it screams scam as you just skim his background materials on his partners and business associates.
I won’t respond to your posts. You know that, because I keep saying I’ve given up on you and your obvious distortions.
I will as soon as enough time has passed for those papers to be filed away and indexed. Those are public documents, anyone can request them.
It is possible that the State Attn General though is already in possession of these papers and a secret arrest warrant has been issued. Next time Rossi lands in the US, it is cuffs and off to jail with him.
If Rossi’s ecat were real, it would be a leap of many thousand fold (if not millions) increase over the best result that anyone had ever got.
***That is not true at all. Rossi’s results are relatively middle-of-the-road for LENR. His game changing contribution is how easily the reaction is reproduced after installing his ‘catalyzer’.
My standard response to NewinTexsas:
I gave up on having a reasonable discussion with you a while ago.
T4BTT
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