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Posted on 11/03/2011 4:03:50 AM PDT by 30Moves

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Green plants absorb and use carbon dioxide in growth. Hot coals will not harm green plants. Carbon Monoxide is not used in the same way. It will not harm green plants even though it is not being used like CO2.

HOWEVER - CO & CO2 are dangerous to red blooded creatures. CO2 is not chemically poisonous but a sufficient concentration in air will smother a person. CO is a blood poison and chemically binds with hemoglobin (weakly) and prevents blood from carrying oxygen from the lungs to the rest of the organs. Be very, very careful with CO sources in enclosed spaces when people or animals are, or will be, in those spaces. Make sure that those spaces are properly ventilated when people or animals come into them.


21 posted on 11/03/2011 5:18:30 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: 30Moves

Buy some rabbits and keep their cage in the greenhouse. Their body heat will keep it above freezing.


22 posted on 11/03/2011 5:23:56 AM PDT by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a Bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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To: Johnny B.
I mean, how would you feel if someone were cremating people in your house to keep you warm?

Between the work required for me to split wood for my wood-burner, and the disagreeableness of some new neighbors, this idea piques my interest.....

23 posted on 11/03/2011 5:24:58 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: 30Moves

Hot coals are still burning...so they are putting out the same stuff a fire is.


24 posted on 11/03/2011 5:35:32 AM PDT by RoadieFan
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To: 30Moves
Probably not. OTOH, letting me care for your plants will definitely kill them. Congrats on being able to maintain a greenhouse - *envy*

; )

25 posted on 11/03/2011 5:38:22 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 30Moves

Glowing coals certainly produce CO! If you have a big pile of them, you can sometimes see a faint, ghostly blue flame over them, especially after fanning them. That’s CO burning. But that flame is easy to extinguish, such as when a pile of charcoal is spread out to cook meat. When that flame goes out, the CO is no longer burning, but it’s still being generated. Furthermore, even when you do see the blue flame, it isn’t necessarily true that ALL the CO is combusting into CO2. Be careful! CO is odorless, it doesn’t “smell like smoke.”


26 posted on 11/03/2011 5:42:05 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: 30Moves
A quick google would have gotten you your answer: Plants: Carbon monoxide does not poison plants since it is rapidly oxidised to form carbon dioxide which is used for photosynthesis.
27 posted on 11/03/2011 5:45:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: MichaelP

The lead singer from Boston knew about this fact and used it to commit suicide by lighting a charcoal burner in his bathroom.


28 posted on 11/03/2011 5:49:28 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: PapaBear3625

One could surmise from this information that in an enclosed area the available oxygen to form CO2 would be used up and CO saturates the air.


29 posted on 11/03/2011 5:53:19 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: stormhill
One could surmise from this information that in an enclosed area the available oxygen to form CO2 would be used up and CO saturates the air.

Correct. Then again, he said the greenhouse was not that air-tight, so a small bucket of charcoal would not likely use up all the O2.

30 posted on 11/03/2011 6:19:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: 30Moves
the greenhouse

I thought the entire point of a greenhouse was to avoid the necessity of adding artificial heat.

31 posted on 11/03/2011 6:24:56 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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The carbon monoxide is small in amount and won't hurt your plants.
One reason carbon monoxide is harmful to humans is that the red blood cells adsorb it preferentially over oxygen thus starving the cells for oxygen.

You could also buy a roll of plastic sheet and cover leaky areas. It's air tight, relatively cheap and reusable.

32 posted on 11/03/2011 6:26:24 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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33 posted on 11/03/2011 6:52:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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Put it in there and don’t worry about killing plants. When I was growing up on the farm, my dad used to put canvas or plastic sheets over our citrus trees and leave a bucket of coals and ashes from the stoves when freezing temps were expected. We never lost a single tree.


34 posted on 11/03/2011 6:54:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Thank you for your reply - I remember growing up in Florida and they used smudge pots to keep the orange trees warm - the sky would be black with smoke but the fruit survived.


35 posted on 11/03/2011 7:19:12 AM PDT by 30Moves
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To: Johnny B.

Do I get to chose who is being cremated. You see, there is always an upside.


36 posted on 11/03/2011 7:27:11 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: 30Moves
"Do the hot coals left over from a wood stove put in a metal bucket and left in my greenhouse give off CO2 or Carbon Monoxide or both?"

No. It can only benefit the plants. Raising the CO2 levels is one of the reasons you have a greenhouse to keep the CO2 higher then out side air. Most plants are starving form the lack of CO2 in our air today. Carbon monoxide can stick on the leaves of plants making them dirty, just wash it off once in a while with a hose.

The only thing you need to worry about is yourself. Both CO2 and CO in high doses can be dangerous. Anything over 8000 ppm for CO2 over a long period of time isn't good. CO is bad for us at any detectable level. But take for example when we give CPR to someone else that has +40,000 ppm CO2 this is for a short duration it will not kill you.

Just open the windows before you go in there.

37 posted on 11/04/2011 2:07:26 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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"Buy some rabbits and keep their cage in the greenhouse. Their body heat will keep it above freezing."

That is a very good idea and they will also keep the CO2 levels higher for better plant growth.

38 posted on 11/04/2011 2:16:37 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Not my idea, I learned that trick from a friend’s land lady back about thirty years ago. I butchered the bunnies the next spring for her in exchange for one of the carcasses.
The neat part is that they are right there in the greenhouse where you can feed them prunings and such.


39 posted on 11/04/2011 6:00:54 AM PDT by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a Bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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