Posted on 11/01/2011 10:01:15 AM PDT by Jean S
As you may know, concealed carry is now legal in Wisconsin as of today, finally!
I found this article at Human Events: Top 10 Concealed Carry Guns
My husband and I have had some training with our revolvers, I have a 38 S+W and my husband has two .357s. We've had some professional training and some training from experienced friends on how to shoot, clean the guns, etc. but not enough to satisfy Wisconsin's new law. We'll be taking a state required 4 hour class next week - with 98 other people. I am not expecting much from the class, I except it will cover basic gun safety and the new laws more extensively than anything else.
I know these questions are a bit vague but I'm not sure exactly what questions I should ask!
Thanks for any advice.
The most important rule is your #2 or put another way: “Never point your gun at anything you would not be willing to see destroyed”.
One I always stressed to my Daughter and grandchildren is to: “Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target”.
I recommend exercising your right to remain silent. Tell them your name and your attorney’s phone number and then shut up. Ain’t no way you’re not going to jail.
True. One criterion by which cops are evaluated is the number of arrests they perform. If the bad guy is dead, the only one there to arrest is you.
Once you say the magic words "I wish to speak to my attorney before answering any questions", the Fifth Amendment is triggered, and they are not supposed to question you further. Any verbal interaction you have with the police beyond the bare minimum is a bad idea.
I would ask your instructor for the name of the best 2nd amend/defense attorney in your area. I would get that attorneys name number and a couple of business cards. Put the name and number in your speed dial and have a card at home and one in each of your wallets.
I would also ask what to say if you ever have to use your weapon. I would drill that basic statement into your heads along with the admonition that that is all you say to the police and that you need to speak with your attorney before you say anything else. Cops are prevented from speaking for 24 hours after they shoot someone. You should take the same amount of time.
It will likely be some variation of “I was in fear for my life and I shot to stop the threat.” “I am too shaken up and would like some time and the opportunity to have my attorney present before I say anything else.” The police are never your friend in this situation even if they happen to actually be a friend. They have to follow procedure and nothing you can say to them can help you at this point, it can only hurt you. Do the minimal damage to yourself with your rehearsed pre planned statement and wait for an expert (your attorney) to guide you through.
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I think this is good advice and I will ask our instructors these questions.
I do not recommend saying anything beyond your name and attorney’s name/phone. Any statement regarding the circumstances of the shooting can and will be used against you. If they believe you prepared a canned statement of “I was in fear for my life,” it’s evidence of clear thinking (i.e. intent.) They’ll drill you and you may lose your composure. You don’t know how you will react after shooting or killing someone. Best to keep your mouth shut on the advice of counsel until you speak to counsel.
One more important point on keeping silent ...
In this day and age, it’s a 50/50 chance there’s video footage. Anything you say that does not agree with said footage, such as the absence of fear on your face or posture, can and will be used against you. Speak to counsel before you say anything.
They may try to wait out your patience or make you uncomfortable in order to pressure you. Know your rights.
Congrats on deciding to apply for a permit. Enjoy your training.
I agree with you. A person could do a lot worse than either a Colt or Browning .32 auto. They are striker fired and Browning had confidence that the safety was sufficient to leave it cocked and loaded. some do have a grip safety.
Those various guns (all designed by Browning) are smooth and will not snag on clothing like an outside hammer will and the single action trigger pull is much better than most modern double action only designs.
I have personally known two people who used those pistols for defense. Both got first shot kills. Yes with the little .32 auto.
Of all the guns Browning designed, his favorite was the little .32 auto pocket model. According to his biography, Browning loved to take the little auto out to the hills around Ogden and shoot a few hundred rounds.
>>> Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use <<<
You are kidding, right?
That might be great if you are hunting critters, but not for self defense.
You are kidding, right?
That might be great if you are hunting critters, but not for self defense.
If you ready to use a gun for self defense then load it.
Sorry, I would load it way before I needed to use it
in a self defense situation.
There is a big difference between carrying and using.
When you strap it on, you are to USE
When you strap it on, you are Ready to USE
That is hilarious!
Have a good night.
You are kidding, right?
When you put a gun on for CCW, you are "using" it, although not immediately intending to fire it.
I think that admonition relates to not storing guns in a loaded condition, and relates more to the hunting and target-shooting audience more than the CCW audience.
I think that admonition relates to not storing guns in a loaded condition, and relates more to the hunting and target-shooting audience more than the CCW audience.
It covers all situations.
Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot
Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use
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