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1 posted on 10/22/2011 10:53:41 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen
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IT WOULD BE Well, to bear in mind, that the President of the USA was awarded the Nobel Prize for PEACE, I couldn’t imagine the Nobel Peace Prize winner would do something like murder.


2 posted on 10/22/2011 10:56:55 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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When U.S. soldiers captured Saddam Hussein during the Presidency of George W. Bush, he was taken prisoner, handed over to Iraqi authorities and eventually tried, convicted and executed by them.

But U.S. soldiers didn't capture Gaddafi, did they? He was captured by his own people who turned around and summarily executed him. I don't understand what Obama was supposed to do to prevent that.

4 posted on 10/22/2011 11:00:20 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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"If the President "leads from behind" on THIS issue he is most seriously damaging the reputation and legitimacy of the United States internationally."

Well, then, of course this will be Obama's decision. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

6 posted on 10/22/2011 11:02:29 AM PDT by Truth29
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There’s a very good reason the Annointed One was relieved when he saw video of Qadhafi’s corpse on TV. Lest we forget, the Libyan dictator funneled millions to “Calypso” Louie Farrakhan, and there are ties between the Nation of Islam leader and Obama. Had he been put on trial, there’s no telling what Qadhafi might have divulged—information that might have been embarassing to the Zero in Chief.


7 posted on 10/22/2011 11:02:43 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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But water boarding is absolutely out of the question.


8 posted on 10/22/2011 11:03:04 AM PDT by cruise_missile
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And he subdued 3 kings....


9 posted on 10/22/2011 11:04:40 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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So imprisoning people and executing their relatives and torturing/raping some will result in a dose of high-velocity lead?

Oh the humanity.


10 posted on 10/22/2011 11:06:06 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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Got A Gripe So You Won't Donate?


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Isn't That Like Setting Fire To Your Own Home?

When FR Is Gone, Where Will You Go Then?

13 posted on 10/22/2011 11:23:05 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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The long lasting impact on the USA is horrible. We wage undeclared wars, without consent of Congress, in violation of the “war powers act”, declare a head of state a proper subject for “kill or capture” and then then they are captured, they are savaged to death by a mob. At least USA made sure some semblance of order was put in place after Japan, Germany, Balkan war, through Marshall plan, UN, NATO or KFOR but recently, in Egypt, Libya, Uganda? etc. it is “Let the chips fall where they may”. We do a turn-key coup d e’tat over to a murky mob of Islamists and think we helped make the world safe for democracy? Is that it?


14 posted on 10/22/2011 11:29:35 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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Did you ever see anything as amazing as this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hbENCmVMc0

I know I couldn’t believe she was that stupid.


15 posted on 10/22/2011 11:36:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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Obama was just afraid that the world would find out that Kadaffy Duck was yet another relative.


17 posted on 10/22/2011 11:52:37 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ron Paul For President! Or anyone other that Romney!)
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Your point, that Bush was careful to observe all the legal niceties, is true.

Nevertheless, I am not a fan of the idea that the International Court in the Hague had any jurisdiction in this case. The calls for an “investigation” of Khadaffi’s killing are hypocrites. Where were they during his reign of terror? They were silent. And had they spoken, they had no power to enforce their view of “international law” in any case, that required men with guns.

Their war was not with any particular country, their war was with a specific individual. Capturing him was not enough; he would be a threat as long as he was alive. Summary execution was necessary to prevent any chance of rescue, or any chance that his supporters would go on fighting. He’s gone, he isn’t coming back, and thats the end of it.

War is not the extension of peacetime law, war is the state of affairs you find yourself in when peacetime rule of law no longer functions. War is the means by which you redesign the facts on the ground in order to allow a return to rule of law. It is the space between the collapse of the rule of law on the one hand, and the reestablishment of rule of law having pulled the weeds that needed pulling.

The way we treated Saddam was admirable, but had there been any chance that he might have been found innocent in that court we would have been fools to allow such a trial. And a trial with a foregone conclusion is not a proper trial under peace-time rules, though it is proper as a war-trial where you simply document the reasons you are going to hang the man. And then you hang him.


18 posted on 10/22/2011 11:54:58 AM PDT by marron
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Imam Obama totally supported what the Muslim mob did to Gadaffi (sp?) because this is what he wanted from the very beginning because Obama supports the Muslim Brotherhood and their goals.

For the latest in a never-ending litany of historic examples provided by the so-called "faithful" adherents of Islam as to why in fact Islam is to be rejected in total; all one has to do is look at how the Islamic, Muslim animals treated Gadaffi (sp?) once they had him in their clutches. They beat and kicked Gadaffi to a bloody pulp, then after they publically humilated and tortured him, they shot him in the head and then slit his throat... all the while screeching "Allah akbar" = their bloody ("god is great"), at the top of their lungs. No "democracy", no trial, no "justice", just a bloody awful gruesome death carried out by a maniacal Muslim mob of murderers! They didn't kill him, they BUTCHERED HIM!

Don't misunderstand me, I am not saying Gadaffi didn't get everything he deserved, but what we see taking place in Egypt, Libya etc is not an "Arab Spring" or a revolution for democracy... it is a demonic revolution for Islam, Shariah Law and for the establishment of a unified Caliphate. Gadaffi was not afforded a trial, a judge or a jury. "Justice" was not carried out, only the bloody desires of the Muslim mob and THIS is another example of exactly what they want to bring to the rest of the entire world

Tragically for the people of Libya; these are the same Muslim animals who will now rule in Libya and who will set up another Islamic state and run the country under Satanic, bloody-awful, Shariah "Law". The people thought Gadaffi was bad... wait until the so-called "Muslim Brotherhood" takes over. More blood than Gadaffi ever spilt will freely run in the streets, and the people will experience more misery than they ever did under Gadaffi... all in the name of "allah" and Islam! Which is EXACTLY what Obama wanted to happen.

If anyone needs another reason as to why Islam is to be rejected in total; all you have to do is wait one day and read tomorrows news! I have every confidence that somewhere in the world "the faithful" adherents of Islam, will provide us all with another historic example... all we have to do is wait a day and read or watch the news, then wait for the next day and read the news, and the next day and read the news... Sadly, Imam Obama supports what is taking place, hence, no condemnation on his part of the butchery of Gadaffi.

19 posted on 10/22/2011 12:06:48 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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During WW2, Benito Mussolini, the leader of Italy supported Hilter. He (Mussolini) was incarcerated when the allies began the invasion of Italy. He was rescued from prison by a German Special Forces. Benito Mussolini, then headed the Italian Social Republic in parts of Italy that were not occupied by Allied forces. With total defeat looming in late 1945. Benito Mussolini, attempted to escape to Switzerland. But was captured, killed on the spot without trail near Lake Como by Italian Partisans. His body was taken to Milian where it was hung upside down from a lamp post at a petrol station for viewing and to prove confirmation of his death. The pictures of this hanging was printed in newspapers world wide. From Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia.
Summary executions are practiced by the police, military, and paramilitary organizations and are associated with guerrilla warfare, counter-insurgency, terrorisms, and criminality.
History repeats its self. So Gaddafi is the latest name added to the list. Nor will Gaddafi be the last name on the list by worlds end.
24 posted on 10/22/2011 1:07:44 PM PDT by Don_Ret_USAF ( "Smile Before Bed, You'll Sleep Better.")
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>If the President "leads from behind" on THIS issue he is most seriously damaging the reputation and legitimacy of the United States internationally.<

Really! Tell me something I don't already know!!!!!

27 posted on 10/22/2011 1:53:01 PM PDT by Jerrybob
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As a practical matter, although the US military would probably not have summarily executed him if they captured him, keep in mind this is a third world country and third world rebels killing a third world dictator should come as no surprise. If you are going to overthrow the king, you better make sure the king is dead.


28 posted on 10/22/2011 2:01:41 PM PDT by chuckee
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Obama is an out of control celebrity president. Yes! Fact: Bush had the Iraqi people TRY Saddam.


31 posted on 10/22/2011 3:36:11 PM PDT by copland1980
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