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We always ask ourselves how CEO's could support Marxists in power and political correctness.

It is shocking that someone trying to run a major operation like Apple could be so out of touch with the most basic aspects of reality. So much so, it may have killed him.

1 posted on 10/20/2011 8:45:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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On the other hand, I have yet to hear of anyone surviving pancreatic cancer. Earlier surgery might not have made a difference.


2 posted on 10/20/2011 8:50:25 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SaraJohnson
I think they call it denial. As said in the article:

Asked by Kroft how such an intelligent man could make such a seemingly stupid decision, Isaacson replies, "I think that he kind of felt that if you ignore something, if you don't want something to exist, you can have magical thinking...we talked about this a lot," he tells Kroft. "He wanted to talk about it, how he regretted it....I think he felt he should have been operated on sooner."

I think this is understandable. People deal with incredible blows differently and I think we all agree Steve Jobs was a mind of a unique mind and way of seeing things. Thus it doesn't surprise me at all that he processed this sort of news differently and even had magical thinking. It shows he lives in a much more creative reality more often than many.

He gave many a great gift. He is allowed to be human. He has given more than most to the earth before passing. I applaud his humanness. We got the best part of the deal.

3 posted on 10/20/2011 8:59:31 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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So refusing anything that could prolong life a couple more years is “stupid”. Interesting value judgement -


10 posted on 10/20/2011 9:13:30 PM PDT by expat1000
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I had a close friend who had breast cancer. She had a double mastectomy, chemo, the works, she was feeling much better. Four years she went in for a check up and walked out with a clean bill of health. The fifth year she refused to go in. Nothing we could say would make her go in. Until the day almost a year later when she almost passed out at her daughter's recital.

That was in July. We buried her before Christmas. She knew she was sick she just hoped that if she ignored it it would go away. It didn't.

What makes people do the things they do? Beats the hell out of me.

12 posted on 10/20/2011 9:18:19 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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Surgery might’ve extended his life another year or two. Most pancreatic cancer isn’t diagnosed until it has already spread to other organs. My dad died 2 months after he was diagnosed.


14 posted on 10/20/2011 9:24:07 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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Apparently, Steve Jobs opted out on certain treatments. Why 'analyze' motive or reason? It was his decision; period.

No doubt, throughout his illness, he was given advice on what or what not to do and what the various consequences of his decision would be.

He chose. With that...it should be left alone ...period.

16 posted on 10/20/2011 9:28:53 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Country Folks can survive....can you? Are you ready?)
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If the surgery was a Whipple procedure, look it up....it carries lots of risks and side affects....many people would not opt for it.....pancreatic cancer for the most part is still terminal....very few people survive it for more than a couple of years, although there are people that do....


18 posted on 10/20/2011 9:31:35 PM PDT by cherry
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Seems he wasn’t as smart as people thought.


22 posted on 10/20/2011 9:37:28 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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He had the surgery in 2004, that means he lived 7 years after he did get the surgery.

Waiting 9 months to do the surgery wasn't wise but, in his case, probably had little or no determining effect on his longevity. He was closely monitored that whole time.

His doctors thought he was "cured" in 2004 when they removed the tumor. Clearly his cancer returned.

28 posted on 10/20/2011 9:44:28 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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With that type of cancer, there is no cure surgery or no surgery....When I worked at the hospital I asked one of our surgeon’s that went through the chemo for pancreatic cancer, he was sorry he did, but went back to work until it killed him....


39 posted on 10/20/2011 9:59:59 PM PDT by goat granny
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I don’t think it has to do with accepting reality.

He wouldn’t have survived, anyway. And facing cancer and immortality his way was his right. Ultimately, it was the most private and personal decision he ever made. And even if we don’t agree with it, we must admit that it was his call and no one else’s.

No one has the right to force their medical opinion upon the ultimately life-or -death decisions of a person who has a cancer that is this deadly. It’s impossible to force someone into treatment.

Thank God!


50 posted on 10/20/2011 10:34:22 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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Stoopid hypothetical story and it could have gone either way.

Pancreatic Cancer is a terribly vicious disease and does what it wants even if you attempt to excise it.


52 posted on 10/20/2011 11:11:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Death by Buddhism?


59 posted on 10/21/2011 6:21:22 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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I'm not so sure his Genius was his intelligence. I don't think he was THAT smart. His genius was in his creativity and his ability to motivate others to do their best. He said that when he learned he had Pancreatic cancer, he didnt even know what a pancreas was.

Pancreatic is a killer though, and he did well to survive as long as he did.

61 posted on 10/21/2011 6:35:41 AM PDT by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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