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KONOYE OUT, JAPAN SEEKS ‘CRISIS’ CABINET; ROOSEVELT SEES MILITARY AIDES ON ORIENT (10/17/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 10/17/41 | Otto D. Tolischus, Frank L. Kluckhohn, Daniel T. Brigham

Posted on 10/17/2011 5:03:05 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread
1 posted on 10/17/2011 5:03:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Advance on Moscow – Operations, 26 August-5 December 1941
The Mediterranean Basin
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – Major Japanese War Objectives and Planned Opening Attacks
2 posted on 10/17/2011 5:04:08 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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“American opinion was divided as well. Otto Tolischus, the Tokyo correspondent of the New York Times, after discussing the matter with Embassy Counselor Dooman, wrote . . .”

Read the quote from this excerpt in tomorrow’s post at image #6.

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John Toland, The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945

3 posted on 10/17/2011 5:06:30 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept

4 posted on 10/17/2011 5:09:50 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, The Grand Alliance

5 posted on 10/17/2011 5:10:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
U.S. Tokyo Target – 2-3
Marshall and Stark Present at Talk at White House – 3-4
Soviet Far Eastern Army Held Able to Meet Japan – 4
Axis Units Enter Black Sea Port – 4-5
Nazi Push Slowed – 5-6
Russian Poster to be Shown at Rally Here (photo) – 5
Capital May Shift – 6-7
Push on Moscow Gains, Nazi Says – 7-8
Battle at Crisis, is Belief of London – 9
Chinese Envoy Sees No Change in Japan – 9
Berlin Finds Tokyo Drawn Back to Axis – 9
Texts of the Day’s War Communiques – 9-10
Weygand is in Vichy for Cabinet Session – 10
6 posted on 10/17/2011 5:12:20 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/oct41/f17oct41.htm

Taganrog falls to the Germans
Friday, October 17, 1941 www.onwar.com
On the Eastern Front... In the south, German troops capture Taganrog on the Sea of Azov.

In India... Arrangements are completed to transport Moslem pilgrims to Mecca, despite wartime shortages of transportation.


7 posted on 10/17/2011 5:17:19 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/17.htm

October 17th, 1941

UNITED KINGDOM:

Destroyer HMS Wilton launched.

Submarine HMS P-38 commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)

GERMANY: U-637 laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)

JAPAN: General Tojo Hideki becomes Japanese Premier as the Konoye Government resigns.

The Foreign Ministry in Tokyo sends a telegram to the embassy in Washington, DC, which includes the following: “The resignation was brought about by a split within the Cabinet. It is true that one of the main items on which opinion differed was on the matter of stationing troops or evacuating them from China. However, regardless of the make-up of the new Cabinet, negotiations with the United States shall be continued along the lines already formulated. There shall be no changes in this respect.” (Jack McKillop)

COMMONWEALTH OF THE PHILIPPINES: Colonel H. George, A-4 (supply) under Major General Lewis H. Brereton, Commanding General Far East Air Force (USAAC), sends a request to Hugh Casey, MacArthur’s engineer, to construct housing and messing for one air group at Del Monte, a natural meadow in the Del Monte pineapple plantation on Mindanao. (Jack McKillop)

CANADA: Minesweeper HMCS Three Rivers renamed HMCS Trois Rivieres. (Dave Shirlaw)

U.S.A.: The USN orders all U.S. merchant ships in Asiatic waters to put into friendly ports. (Jack McKillop)

In the U.S., the motion picture “Week-End in Havana” is released today. This musical comedy, directed by Walter Lang, stars Alice Faye, Carmen Miranda, John Payne, Cesar Romero, Sheldon Leonard and Billy Gilbert; Hugh Beaumont (later “Ward Cleaver”) appears in an uncredited bit part. The plot is typical musical fluff with Payne taking Faye to Havana for business purposes where they meet night club singer Miranda. (Jack McKillop)

Washington: All US merchant ships in Asian waters are ordered to put in at friendly ports.

ICELAND: Reykjavik: The battle to protect convoy SC 48 continues. SC 48 is the first U.S. Navy-escorted convoy to engage German submarines in battle, but despite the presence of the three modern U.S. destroyers and two flush-deckers—USS Decatur (DD-341) and HMCS Columbia [ex-USS Haraden (DD-183)], and four RCN corvettes, the enemy torpedoes six ships and an escort vessel in a total elapsed time of four hours and forty-seven minutes. U-432 sinks Greek steamer SS Evros, Panamanian steamer SS Bold Venture and Norwegian motor tanker MS Barfonn; U-558 sinks British tanker SS W.C. Teagle, and Norwegian steamship SS Rym; U-553 sinks Norwegian steamer SS Erviken and conducts an unsuccessful approach on destroyer USS Plunkett (DD-431). The RCN and USN escort vessels immediately began dropping depth charges and continue to barrage throughout the night.

The USS KEARNY (DD-432) is torpedoed by U-568 southwest of Iceland at 2.00am. She was one of five US destroyers which went to the aid of convoy SC-48, which had come under attack from a U-boat pack after losing half her Canadian escort in a gale.

Last night, despite the reinforcements, U-boats sank six more merchant ships. The KEARNY was illuminated by the blazing vessels and suffered a direct hit from U-568 on the starboard side, but damage control limited flooding to the forward fire room enabling the ship to leave the danger area with power from the aft fire room.

Regaining power in the forward fire room, Kearny, escorted by USS Greer (DD-145), the damaged Kearny proceeds to Hvalfjordur, Iceland at 10 knots, arriving 19 October. There she will undergo temporary repairs alongside repair ship USS Vulcan (AR-5) and get underway on 25 December 1941 for Massachusetts for permanent repairs. Eleven of Kearny’s crew are killed and 22 are injured.

Soon thereafter, U-101 torpedoes and sinks the RN destroyer HMS Broadwater [ex-USS Mason (DD-191)], at 57°01’N, 19°08’W. Lost on board the British flush-deck destroyer are two survivors from SS Ervinken and nine from SS W.C. Teagle.

In the air, PBY-5A Catalinas of the USN’s Patrol Squadron Seventy Three (VP-73) based at Reykjavik, Iceland, arrive to provide air coverage for SC 48.

Two USN destroyers screening convoy HX 154, USS Charles F. Hughes (DD-428) and USS Gleaves (DD-423), depth-charge suspicious contacts at 54°40’N, 33°59’W, and 54°40’N, 33°59’W. (Jack McKillop)

ATLANTIC OCEAN:

U-83 sank SS Indra.

U-97 sank SS Pass of Balmaha and SS Samos.

U-432 sank SS Barfonn and SS Evros in Convoy SC-48.

U-553 sank SS Bold Venture in Convoy SC-48.

U-558 sank SS Erviken, SS Rym, SS WC Teagle and corvette HMS Gladiolus in Convoy SC-48. (Dave Shirlaw)


8 posted on 10/17/2011 5:20:05 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

“Tojo has been described as a typical militarist....”

Events are gaining momentum in the Far East...


9 posted on 10/17/2011 5:23:24 AM PDT by texanyankee
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Events are gaining momentum in the Far East...

Today's headline coupled with tomorrow's gave me the image of a snowball rolling down the mountain.

10 posted on 10/17/2011 8:34:09 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

the japanese really “bought at the top of the market”, looked like nothing could stop germany, so why not ally with them.

oops. A bombs on cities now only 48 months out.


11 posted on 10/17/2011 12:31:30 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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