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[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Bottom line: The FDA wants to control all vitamins and supplements, so that nobody can have them without government permission. Therefore, a bureaucratic push to make the public think these things are too dangerous for the public to have.

[ClearCase_guy]

Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

[molson209]

I thought that’s what cults do ,control the diet and you control the mind

[MattinNJ]

hahaahhaha

I have been drinking inhuman quantities of Diet Coke for 20 years now. All the health nuts have been telling me my head will fall off or something.

Lift weights, eat protein, watch the carbs, and wash it down with Diet Coke to look good and feel good.

[libertarian27]

Follow the money.....

“Vitamins - Bad....Viagra - Good”

“Generic - Bad....Name Brand - Good”

(a lesson in following the money.....)

[exDemMom]

From a scientific standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense to think that we somehow need to take large quantities of purified or synthesized vitamins, when the human race has existed for the last million years or so without them. If you eat a balanced diet, you shouldn’t need vitamins.

Vitamin companies have done a very good job of convincing people that they absolutely need to pop handfuls of vitamin pills.

[SharpRightTurn]

Research from scientists such as Bruce Ames shows pretty clearly that we can't get all needed nutrients from food. Here's from his page: Dr. Ames is a Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of California, Berkeley, and a Senior Scientist at Children's Hospital Oakland Research Institute (CHORI). He is a member of the National Academy of Sciences and he was on their Commission on Life Sciences. He was a member of the board of directors of the National Cancer Institute, the National Cancer Advisory Board, from 1976 to 1982. He was the recipient of the General Motors Cancer Research Foundation Prize (1983), the Tyler Environmental Prize (1985), the Gold Medal Award of the American Institute of Chemists (1991), the Glenn Foundation Award of the Gerontological Society of America (1992), the Lovelace Institutes Award for Excellence in Environmental Health Research (1995), the Honda Prize of the Honda Foundation, Japan (1996), the Japan Prize, (1997), the Kehoe Award, American College of Occup. and Environ. Med. (1997), the Medal of the City of Paris (1998), the U.S. National Medal of Science (1998), The Linus Pauling Institute Prize for Health Research (2001), and the American Society for Microbiology Lifetime Achievement Award (2001). His over 450 publications have resulted in his being among the few hundred most-cited scientists (in all fields): 23rd most-cited (1973-1984). Research Interests The research of the lab involves various aspects of tuning-up metabolism to optimize health. Mitochondrial decay with age due to oxidation of RNA/DNA, proteins, and lipids, is a major contributor to aging and the degenerative diseases of aging. In old rats (vs. young rats) mitochondrial membrane potential, cardiolipin level, respiratory control ratio, and cellular O2 uptake are lower; oxidants/02, neuron RNA oxidation, and mutagenic aldehydes from lipid peroxidation are higher (1-3). Feeding old rats the normal mitochondrial metabolites acetyl carnitine (ALC) and lipoic acid (LA) at high levels for a few weeks reverses much of this decay, the two complementing each other, in some cases synergistically, and restores the lost mitochondrial function to the level of young mitochondria (1-3). Ambulatory activity, cognition, heart, and immune function decline with age and feeding ALC and LA to the old rats also restores a good part of the lost function (1-4). Considerable progress has been made in understanding the mechanism of action of the two metabolites (1-3, 5, 6). LA is a mitochondrial coenzyme and is reduced in the mitochondria to a potent antioxidant, dihydrolipoic acid. LA is also an effective inducer of the phase-2 antioxidant enzymes, about 200 enzymes including those required for glutathione synthesis (5, 6). Inadequate intakes of vitamins and minerals from food can lead to DNA damage, mitochondrial decay, and other pathologies (7). Intakes below the EAR, i.e. 2 standard deviations

[SharpRightTurn]

A link to a few abstracts by Dr. Ames about the importance of getting adequate nutrition:

http://mcb.berkeley.edu/index.php?option=com_mcbfaculty&name=amesb