Posted on 10/08/2011 11:48:19 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
Worth a try, anyway...
The claim was made that Palin had more leadership experience; I was asking about leadership...
Herman Cain led tens of thousands of people in profitable businesses for a few decades. He also completed his stints at his job - when the going got tough, he stuck it out.
What leadership role has Palin completed that compares anywhere near what a major CEO has done?
A few of the things you posted re her “leadership”, yes - but not being an “author” and “commentator”.
Hmmmmpphh...name someone from the right who has given more leadership in the press and the news, with simple twitters and op-eds and TV interviews. Cripes, just about everything she has written or said has made headlines and lefty heads explode. I get it, you don’t think she’s all that much...you’re wrong. The right has had no more powerful voice or accomplished candidate in the public arena for a very long time.
She would be the best thing that ever happened to the RNC as chairman.
Michele Bachmann has delusions of grandeur and was tone deaf from the beginning. You put all your eggs in that basket, not quite as bad as some of the Perrybots, but tearing down SP on every thread,trolling was really sickening to watch. I expected it from some of the degenerate male trolls, but you should have risen above it. Right now you fear her because you know she is not going away, and will have huge influence.
The Convention is 10 months away and the election is 13 months away, and anything can happen. Stop with the nastiness,and try to do something positive for a change.
From her letter:
When we serve, we devote ourselves to God, family and country
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I think you switched the order, she said 1) God, 2)Family, 3) Country.
You had 2 & 3 switched around -it makes a difference.
I won’t be responding after this to an obviosly obsessed loon.
Palin is not running. Bachmann has been to damaged.
I will support Cain, Newt, or Santorum.
The jealousy thing? Not on your life. I would not be jealous of anyone who has so let others down. In fact. It is sad. Has been for far too long.
Well...let's look at the old employment record, shall we? Looks to me like he resigned a coupla time himself, no?
In a leveraged buyout in 1988, Cain, Executive Vice-President and COO Ronald B. Gartlan and a group of investors, bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996, when he resigned.
Later in 1996 he became CEO of the National Restaurant Association, a trade group and lobby organization for the restaurant industry, where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather's Pizza.
Cain became a member of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996, when he resigned to become active in national politics.
Huh. How about that? Is he a QUITTER?
No, that isn't what she said. Here it is.
As always, my family comes first and obviously Todd and I put great consideration into family life before making this decision. When we serve, we devote ourselves to God, family and country. My decision maintains this order.
The point is that Sarah is not in the race, but Cain is. Right now, making comparisons between the two is a moot exercise.
You’re implying that she would need to be drafted INITIALLY to be drawn in, like Eisenhower. She never needed to be drafted. She quit the governorship, remember?
She deliberated about it, considered it, prayed about it, watched what happened to her family, lived through the vetting process, spent every day in the mindset of “Should I run?”
Then, after prayer to God... which was first on her list. She AND her HUSBAND, found the answer to be no.
In that decision process, they considered their family, because that’s what parents of a family of five children, one a special needs child... as well as grandparents to two young grandchildren... would consider the impact on the family. There are four very young children in the entire Palin family to consider.
And then, last, NOT first, but last, came country. Still the answer was no. That’s after everything, and much prayer.
So, you want her to “second guess” herself and equivocate?
I don’t think that she is that type of person. You don’t say no to the presidential campaign and the entire country, and then say, “Aw, shucks! I’ve changed my mind! Silly me!”
People would mock her endlessly if she did that. She would have no credibility as a woman who is known as a Christian and a woman of faith, if she went against prayer to God... when she claimed that God was her first consideration.
No more a quitter than Sarah Palin...;) In fact, he hung around for 8 years before leaving to move on - he lasted more than 2 years, didn’t he?
And it’s interesting that you ignored his turnaround of 400 Burger King restaurants - which he left to move UP to CEO of Godfather’s Pizza.
So, again - what leadership role has Palin filled that eclipses the leadership roles that Cain’s filled?
Everything is “moot” when you’re getting your ass kicked in an argument.
I said the same thing a couple of days ago about Jim Demint. As a Palinite told me... “too late to put together an organization.” Same probably holds true for Sarah.
Not going to happen in the forseeable future. From the RNC the RINOs rule.
Exactly. Cain’s committed to the run - Palin never started. Obsession with Palin is rather unhealthy to person and conservatism together.
As the self-proclaimed Chief Druid of the Cult of Palin, I feel it is my duty to remind loyal members the flock that our leader has declined the position and will work toward the rebuilding of America.
It does her no credit to demand things of her when she has chosen another path. Yes we are all upset and dispirited. But the time has come to choose another candidate and support them to your best ability.
Palin will continue to work in her own way. If you really do support her, then support her decision. Otherwise you don’t really support her at all.
Please believe me that your foot’s nowhere near my @ss, honey.
Exactly. Cain’s committed to the run - Palin never started. Obsession with Palin is rather unhealthy to person and conservatism together.
I dunno...looks like a “quitter” to me...hahahahahaha...that’s where you were going with Palin’s record, and you know it. You guys are priceless. I was talking about Palin at the RNC...nice try at deflection, though. You’re a master debater.
Thanks for your concern about my health, though. Glad to see a sensitive plant like yourself worried about it. But please, take care of yourself and stay out of my business..THAT is a conservative value.
I cannot wait until she starts kicking butt. She knows who the enemy is,so do we, and We all will have the last laugh.
Looking at the News and seeing filthy hogs defecating on Police cars claiming to be TEAPARTY like is a stark contrast to the real TeaParty Movement, and it is time to start stressing that in the most important ways. We need to step back, give this a few days, then we can start working to make sure that SP is going to go gung ho into this new leadership. There is absolutely nobody else that has the charisma,energy,and leadership to do this.
Go ahead—split the vote. That is what the Perotistas did to give us two terms of Bill Clinton.
“Commenting” and “writing books” don’t qualify as leadership in my opinion. Thousands do it with varying degrees of success, but it’s not leadership. Making headlines with comments is not leadership, or Obama would qualify. Obviously we define the word differently.
“The right has had no more powerful voice or accomplished candidate in the public arena for a very long time.”
She was “accomplished” as a candidate for governor, which every state has whenever they have a gubernatorial election (so in that sense every governor is accomplished). Since then she hasn’t been a candidate for anything.
She does have a powerful voice to her followers; how many that would have been had she run, we’ll never know. I’d have voted for her against Obama but I don’t know that she’d have been my first choice during the primaries (I’d wanted to have heard her specific policy proposals and how she fared in the debates).
Could she be effective as the RNC chairman? Quite possibly, but only to the extent she could get enough people to follow her (IMO, the only real definition of “leadership”).
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