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Keep off my land! Landowner wins right to bar ramblers from Dartmoor's tallest Tor
Mail Online ^ | 21st September 2011 | Lee Moran

Posted on 09/21/2011 5:33:17 PM PDT by Charlespg

Ramblers and climbers have been banned from one of Dartmoor's most historic sites.

The beautiful Vixen Tor has been closed off for good after landowner Mary Alford won an eight-year battle to keep walkers off her land.

Her victory comes after a fight which included two planning inquiries and a series of mass trespasses to protest against the Tor's closure.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: disrupters; england; madhouse; trespass; trolls; uk; zot
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Right to Roam?

what the blinking blue blazes is the right to roam?

No wonder England is turning into a third world toilet

1 posted on 09/21/2011 5:33:21 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Charlespg

Ah. I had to read the article to understand what the headline meant.


2 posted on 09/21/2011 5:36:50 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Charlespg

3 posted on 09/21/2011 5:37:17 PM PDT by struggle
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But they are so innocent looking!:

I could see banning Pacers...

4 posted on 09/21/2011 5:40:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (California: Making Texas more Conservative one voter at a time)
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To: Charlespg

So you can't park your Rambler there.
5 posted on 09/21/2011 5:40:11 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: freedumb2003
I could see banning Pacers

Aren't those the ones that look kind of like pregnant Gremlins?

6 posted on 09/21/2011 5:43:12 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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Aren't those the ones that look kind of like pregnant Gremlins?

That is a great description:


7 posted on 09/21/2011 5:47:51 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (California: Making Texas more Conservative one voter at a time)
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To: Charlespg

Get that Rambler off my lawn!

8 posted on 09/21/2011 5:49:16 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (California: Making Texas more Conservative one voter at a time)
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To: Charlespg
Probably because the Ramblers are a little bit different:

The Rayne Bo Ramblers

9 posted on 09/21/2011 5:50:03 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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sometimes its waste of time to post here

It was about property rights in england and the so called right to roam law

can some english freeper tell what the hell the right to roam is

10 posted on 09/21/2011 5:58:49 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: struggle

LOL! Nobody around here will get your joke...


11 posted on 09/21/2011 6:05:02 PM PDT by stormer
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I have no doubt that the Fernworthy people will burn her in effigy to-night.

Mr. niteowl77

12 posted on 09/21/2011 6:07:16 PM PDT by niteowl77 ("Romneycare," he said as he turned and walked away.)
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To: Charlespg

Google still works...

In England, after a polarised debate about the merits, rights and benefits of private landowners and public recreation, in 2000 the Government legislated to introduce a limited right to roam, without compensation for landowners. The Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000 was gradually implemented from 2000 onwards to give the general public the conditional right to walk in certain areas of the English and Welsh countryside: principally downland, moorland, heathland and coastal land.

Traditionally the public could walk on established public footpaths and bridleways, on common land and on the foreshore, and land owners could prevent access to other areas (or charge a fee for access).

Angling interests successfully lobbied for the exclusion of rivers in England and Wales from CROW, leaving other river users such as swimmers and canoeists with access restricted to less than 2% of navigable water. The British Canoe Union is running the Rivers Access Campaign, to highlight the level of restrictions the public face in gaining access to inland waterways in England and Wales.

The new rights were introduced region by region through England and Wales, with completion in 2005. Maps showing accessible areas have been produced.

Access to the Countryside or the ‘right to roam’

http://www.ramblers.org.uk/freedom/righttoroam/countryside_access
The Ramblers campaigned for many years for a legal right of access on foot to some of the wildest and most dramatic landscapes in England and Wales. This legal right - or right to roam - was provided by The Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000.


13 posted on 09/21/2011 6:24:56 PM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: stormer

>>LOL! Nobody around here will get your joke...

Well you did! Lol


14 posted on 09/21/2011 6:27:02 PM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

Yeah, but I’m not normal...


15 posted on 09/21/2011 6:42:26 PM PDT by stormer
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To: struggle

Dartmoor, not Johnson.


16 posted on 09/21/2011 6:45:19 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Charlespg

It’s like our right of way laws. An established trail [20yrs] becomes a public right of way. I wonder if their adverse possession laws are that much stronger than ours. I know much of our civil code is based on English common law but don’t know how far it goes.Answers??


17 posted on 09/21/2011 6:53:31 PM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
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To: Allegra

Garthmobile, I think
;^)


18 posted on 09/21/2011 9:29:08 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: struggle
>>LOL! Nobody around here will get your joke...

I got it too.
19 posted on 09/21/2011 9:40:20 PM PDT by grateful
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To: Charlespg

In the US, you can go anywhere you like in the wilderness because it is not owned by anybody, or at the very least is public land, i.e. you have access to walk/camp as you see fit. Correct?

In Britain, we have no wilderness because it is so small (about the size of the state of Oregon), and every bit of land is owned by somebody. The larger areas of open ground, moorland, heathland, lakes and mountains, are all owned by somebody. It used to be at their jurisdiction whether you could walk through it. The Right To Roam gave ramblers the right to enter private land on certain specified footpaths, as long as they didn’t set up camp. Ultimately this is a good law. These areas of land, although owned by somebody, are usually in the back of beyond. It’s not as if you’re walking through their house.


20 posted on 09/22/2011 5:11:11 AM PDT by Mitch86
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